I hope good Democrats in this country will rally and push Hillary Clinton to challenge Obama during the primary. She should have been the nominee in 2008, she is more qualified then our current President and would have been a more effective leader. I am not a Democrat and only voted for one Democrat President in my life (Jimmy Carter) 1976 but would have voted for Clinton versus John Mccain. Maybe it is not too late!

Originally Posted by ljones190

I hope good Democrats in this country will rally and push Hillary Clinton to challenge Obama during the primary. She should have been the nominee in 2008, she is more qualified then our current President and would have been a more effective leader. I am not a Democrat and only voted for one Democrat President in my life (Jimmy Carter) 1976 but would have voted for Clinton versus John Mccain. Maybe it is not too late!

Heck, I would vote for old Carter if he ran again. Anything is better then this empty suit.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Heck, I would vote for old Carter if he ran again. Anything is better then this empty suit.

I think if I had to, I'd vote for Anthony Weiner over this POTUS.

Originally Posted by ljones190

I hope good Democrats in this country will rally and push Hillary Clinton to challenge Obama during the primary. She should have been the nominee in 2008, she is more qualified then our current President and would have been a more effective leader. I am not a Democrat and only voted for one Democrat President in my life (Jimmy Carter) 1976 but would have voted for Clinton versus John Mccain. Maybe it is not too late!

I'd probably vote for Hillary in 2012 myself over what appear to be the current GOP choices. I voted for her in the 2008 primary and I would support her again. (I could be wrong, but I've already written off Mitt Romney as never being able to garner support from the Christian conservatives to get the nomination.)

But as desirable as Hillary might be as the best candidate from either party, there's no way she's going to take on someone sitting there with $1 billion in spendable campaign cash in his pocket. And in her case, what she was criticized for back in 2008--getting both her and Bill with one vote--doesn't sound too bad. It would take a lot of work by two skillful people to straighten this mess out!

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

I'd probably vote for Hillary in 2012 myself over what appear to be the current GOP choices. I voted for her in the 2008 primary and I would support her again. (I could be wrong, but I've already written off Mitt Romney as never being able to garner support from the Christian conservatives to get the nomination.)

But as desirable as Hillary might be as the best candidate from either party, there's no way she's going to take on someone sitting there with $1 billion in spendable campaign cash in his pocket. And in her case, what she was criticized for back in 2008--getting both her and Bill with one vote--doesn't sound too bad. It would take a lot of work by two skillful people to straighten this mess out!

My guess? I don't think you would vote for any republican, regardless of his or her qualifications. I could be wrong, but that is my gut feeling. I ordinarily would not make such a statement about an average poster here, but your many essays have convinced me that your a closet democrat.

Hilary would be Obama lite.

Originally Posted by Sally Jo

Hilary would be Obama lite.

Obama lite is preferable to Obama.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

My guess? I don't think you would vote for any republican, regardless of his or her qualifications. I could be wrong, but that is my gut feeling. I ordinarily would not make such a statement about an average poster here, but your many essays have convinced me that your a closet democrat.

Wrong, I would vote for Mitt Romney. I just don't think he's going to make the cut.

I won't vote for Obama. If I'm right with regard to Romney not getting the nomination, I may be on the sidelines in 2012.

I agree.

Vote Republican and you won't have to worry about anything "Obama."

Originally Posted by ljones190

I hope good Democrats in this country will rally and push Hillary Clinton to challenge Obama during the primary. She should have been the nominee in 2008, she is more qualified then our current President and would have been a more effective leader. I am not a Democrat and only voted for one Democrat President in my life (Jimmy Carter) 1976 but would have voted for Clinton versus John Mccain. Maybe it is not too late!

I agree. But the party threw Hillary overboard so openly in 2008, as she earned her way up thru the primaries. When the party decided she would not get states she won fair and square, like Michigan, Florida and Ohio---all big, pivotal states---I concluded the party did not WANT the best candidate for our country.

They wanted a guy who has no passion for this nation nor its people, because they wanted a hatchet man....one who would destroy it so leftists could "save" it with more government dependency that guarantees votes.

Oops. I was agreeing with Villagegolfer. Vk's post got in ahead of mine.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

My guess? I don't think you would vote for any republican, regardless of his or her qualifications. I could be wrong, but that is my gut feeling. I ordinarily would not make such a statement about an average poster here, but your many essays have convinced me that your a closet democrat.

Golfer..I have been readng Kahuna's posts for a long time. I absolutely think he would vote for the best candidate from either party. He backs up his opinions with solid research. I think he takes great pains to seek the truth. Kahuna..I salute you.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Wrong, I would vote for Mitt Romney. I just don't think he's going to make the cut.

I won't vote for Obama. If I'm right with regard to Romney not getting the nomination, I may be on the sidelines in 2012.

I can respect someone staying on the sidelines then someone that would blindly vote for someone just to vote for his party.

Originally Posted by ilovetv

I agree. But the party threw Hillary overboard so openly in 2008, as she earned her way up thru the primaries. When the party decided she would not get states she won fair and square, like Michigan, Florida and Ohio---all big, pivotal states---I concluded the party did not WANT the best candidate for our country.

They wanted a guy who has no passion for this nation nor its people, because they wanted a hatchet man....one who would destroy it so leftists could "save" it with more government dependency that guarantees votes.

I would have disagreed with you a few months back but there is no more logical reason for the choice of Obama. Ted Kennedy is still is haunting us from the grave, he was the very reason Obama got the nomination.