Originally Posted by Bucco

TBUGS returns

Hmm 3rd post.

Originally Posted by Number 6

I am trying to figure out what "baggage" Mitt Romeny has. Do you mean Massachusetts health care or the fact the we was never a "community orginizer"?

ROTFLMAO Good one!!!

Originally Posted by Number 6

I am trying to figure out what "baggage" Mitt Romeny has. Do you mean Massachusetts health care or the fact the we was never a "community orginizer"?

I believe Romney now says that the Mass. health care system was a mistake. I know he has backed away from it.

Originally Posted by ilovetv

You're right, except Obama did not "beat" (defeat) Hillary. The party threw her overboard and scr*wed her out of the pivotal states she won like Michigan, Florida and Ohio.

Remember when people used to talk about the invincibility of "the Clinton Machine"? Well when Hill and Bill were shoved into the ditch you know we are in BIG trouble.

I agree. I actually toyed with the idea of voting for a repub for president, until Palin was selected. An obvious ploy to attract Clinton supporters. Did they think women are stupid enough to vote for a woman just BECAUSE she is a woman?

Originally Posted by ladydoc

I agree. I actually toyed with the idea of voting for a repub for president, until Palin was selected. An obvious ploy to attract Clinton supporters. Did they think women are stupid enough to vote for a woman just BECAUSE she is a woman?

No, but I think there are alot of stupid women who didn't vote for her because she was a woman. I would think that women would be outraged by the way the mainstream media treated her.

Originally Posted by ladydoc

I agree. I actually toyed with the idea of voting for a repub for president, until Palin was selected. An obvious ploy to attract Clinton supporters. Did they think women are stupid enough to vote for a woman just BECAUSE she is a woman?

That would be like voting for a person of color just because he is of color.

And that's a big part of why Hillary was thrown overboard.

Originally Posted by ilovetv

That would be like voting for a person of color just because he is of color.

And that's a big part of why Hillary was thrown overboard.

Your absolutely right. Polls confirmed that 95-96% of blacks voted for Obama. So, who is stupid now? Women or blacks?

Originally Posted by ilovetv

That would be like voting for a person of color just because he is of color.

And that's a big part of why Hillary was thrown overboard.

LOL You are pretty sharp.

Originally Posted by buggyone

The GOP's are going to have to find a really good candidate who is middle of the road (not far left like Bachmann) if they want a chance of beating President Obama. Romney has too much baggage, Perry is too evangelical, Palin has too much sense to give up her book deals, and Pawlenty has put his foot in his mouth too many times.

I personally believe the Democrat ticket will be Obama and Hillary Clinton when Joe Biden "decides" not to run based on family time.

The Democrat ticket will win again. At that time I will buy a round or two of ice-cold Yeunglings at Urban Flats for a few chosen conservatives.

I'll be there and I have a feeling you'll know where to find me.

Originally Posted by ladydoc

I agree. I actually toyed with the idea of voting for a repub for president, until Palin was selected. An obvious ploy to attract Clinton supporters. Did they think women are stupid enough to vote for a woman just BECAUSE she is a woman?

So, do you think your strategy of snubbing Palin has earned any dividends? Do you really believe that even the flawed ticket of McCain-Palin would have been worse that this abomination of an administration we have now?

My dream is to one day (figuratively speaking) smack anyone and everyone that slams that woman, who has more patriotism and love of God and Country in one pinky finger that Barack Hussein Obama has in his entire family.

Originally Posted by ladydoc

I believe Romney now says that the Mass. health care system was a mistake. I know he has backed away from it.

It was implemented after his term ended if I remember right.

I don't think it's all bad that the Mass. healthcare reform has not worked as well as hoped.....the rest of the states can learn from it and they are working out problems.

It's better to "experiment" with one or a few states than to put a 2,000-page monstrosity on all 50 states, all at once. Plus, every state is different in terms of ability to finance such complex programs.

Here's one of the big problems they've had:

"....Stating the obvious, officials have concluded that, “emergency room crowding and rising costs will not be solved by providing people with health insurance alone,” and, what is needed “are more primary care doctors and nurses.”......

And again, the results are going to be predictable. Without adequate primary care access, these newly insured patients will flood already crowded emergency rooms for care, further driving up spending and costs.

If you think what’s happening in Massachusetts, which by the way, has the highest density of physicians per capita in the country, is scary, replicating this scenario nationwide will be truly frightening."

"ER visits and healthcare costs rise in MA due to lack of primary care access":
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/04/...s-rise-in.html

But then, we could have learned that from Canada, too, where.......

"On June 9, 2005, the high court struck down a Quebec law that prohibited people from buying private health insurance to cover procedures already offered by the public system.

"Access to a waiting list is not access to health care," two of the justices wrote in their decision.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/healthcare/

Originally Posted by Number 6

I am trying to figure out what "baggage" Mitt Romeny has. Do you mean Massachusetts health care or the fact the we was never a "community orginizer"?

When I use term "baggage" as relates to Mitt Romney, I speak of a few things were he will have to answer specific questions and not innuendos.

THAT does not disuade me from supporting him. He has experience, he has made mistakes or errors in judgement. That does not deter me from voting for him. His success certainly outweigh any of that.

Our current President did not have "baggage" similiar...he had "baggage" which was swept under the rug, but it was not from him experience in managing or governing. It had to do with a lot of personal issues and his associations and training.