Originally Posted by ljones190

I can respect someone staying on the sidelines then someone that would blindly vote for someone just to vote for his party.

In theory, you have a point. But at this time in history we are saddled with, in my opinion, a President who is the most destructive to our American way of life than we've ever known.

Any person who abstains from the election is voting for Obama. Whoever the opposing candidate is on the Republican side is going to be preferable than 4 more years of socialist engineering from Obama and his cohorts.

Of course if you think things are going along nicely in our country, you might disagree with me.

You remember that Ted Kennedy tried to take on Carter in 1980 and that failed. I don't think that Hillary will take Obama on.
Mitt Romney seems like the best of the GOP crowd, or Newt!

Hillary missed her opportunity. The Dems cannot and will not pass on the incumbent much to their chagrin. I believe we will have a viable third choice for the 2012 elections because voters are fed up with both the Dems and the Republicans. The Dems are stuck with Obama. To date the Republicans hierarchy seems bent on candidates that do not have mass appeal. I blame people like Karl Rove. So when I say third choice I mean that the Republican party primary will give way to a candidate with broader appeal. if they do not then you will see a third party challenge, especially if the Repubican candidate is seen as not serius about dealing with the debt.

Originally Posted by rubicon

Hillary missed her opportunity. The Dems cannot and will not pass on the incumbent much to their chagrin. I believe we will have a viable third choice for the 2012 elections because voters are fed up with both the Dems and the Republicans. The Dems are stuck with Obama. To date the Republicans hierarchy seems bent on candidates that do not have mass appeal. I blame people like Karl Rove. So when I say third choice I mean that the Republican party primary will give way to a candidate with broader appeal. if they do not then you will see a third party challenge, especially if the Repubican candidate is seen as not serius about dealing with the debt.

if there is a 3rd party candidate from right Obama wins!

Originally Posted by ljones190

if there is a 3rd party candidate from right Obama wins!

I absolutely agree....Obama should hope for that to happen !

From my perspective, with any baggage he may have (which means he has experience..would that not be nice)...my money is on Romney as it was in 2008.

To me, he brings all the right stuff to the table.

But, you are so right.....third party raps it up for Obama !

When Obama beat Hillary, that was the decline of the USA. If Hillary had beaten Obama, we would not be in this mess. IMHO

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

When Obama beat Hillary, that was the decline of the USA. If Hillary had beaten Obama, we would not be in this mess. IMHO

I agree with you 100%.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

When Obama beat Hillary, that was the decline of the USA. If Hillary had beaten Obama, we would not be in this mess. IMHO

How about sooner-like when the Republicans chose to run Mc Cain...

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

When Obama beat Hillary, that was the decline of the USA. If Hillary had beaten Obama, we would not be in this mess. IMHO

You're right, except Obama did not "beat" (defeat) Hillary. The party threw her overboard and scr*wed her out of the pivotal states she won like Michigan, Florida and Ohio.

Remember when people used to talk about the invincibility of "the Clinton Machine"? Well when Hill and Bill were shoved into the ditch you know we are in BIG trouble.

One thing is absolutely clear a vote for any one of the Straw Poll Republican radicals would drive this country to the bottom of a political pit. Where are the candidates who have the Country at heart and are prepared to stand up for it. Where are the moderates who take action reasonably, rationally, intelligently and responsibly, not by tenacious adherence to the far fringe of political belief that only promotes an extreme minority interest. I really don't care if a candidate is Republican or Democrat if they stand closer to the center of the political spectrum and have the courage to stay their. Unfortunately this won't happen because the backing of the whole party on either side requires conformity to a political position which pleases the loudest of the party, the extremists. I for one will not however waste my vote by standing on the sidelines, I will vote for the most responsible candidate, and they weren't on the Straw Poll panel.

Originally Posted by Luv2travel

One thing is absolutely clear a vote for any one of the Straw Poll Republican radicals would drive this country to the bottom of a political pit. Where are the candidates who have the Country at heart and are prepared to stand up for it. Where are the moderates who take action reasonably, rationally, intelligently and responsibly, not by tenacious adherence to the far fringe of political belief that only promotes an extreme minority interest. I really don't care if a candidate is Republican or Democrat if they stand closer to the center of the political spectrum and have the courage to stay their. Unfortunately this won't happen because the backing of the whole party on either side requires conformity to a political position which pleases the loudest of the party, the extremists. I for one will not however waste my vote by standing on the sidelines, I will vote for the most responsible candidate, and they weren't on the Straw Poll panel.

Originally Posted by Luv2travel

One thing is absolutely clear a vote for any one of the Straw Poll Republican radicals would drive this country to the bottom of a political pit. Where are the candidates who have the Country at heart and are prepared to stand up for it. Where are the moderates who take action reasonably, rationally, intelligently and responsibly, not by tenacious adherence to the far fringe of political belief that only promotes an extreme minority interest. I really don't care if a candidate is Republican or Democrat if they stand closer to the center of the political spectrum and have the courage to stay their. Unfortunately this won't happen because the backing of the whole party on either side requires conformity to a political position which pleases the loudest of the party, the extremists. I for one will not however waste my vote by standing on the sidelines, I will vote for the most responsible candidate, and they weren't on the Straw Poll panel.

"Moderates" like Bob Dole and John McCain? No thank-you. I'll take an "extremist" like Ronald Reagan.

The GOP's are going to have to find a really good candidate who is middle of the road (not far left like Bachmann) if they want a chance of beating President Obama. Romney has too much baggage, Perry is too evangelical, Palin has too much sense to give up her book deals, and Pawlenty has put his foot in his mouth too many times.

I personally believe the Democrat ticket will be Obama and Hillary Clinton when Joe Biden "decides" not to run based on family time.

The Democrat ticket will win again. At that time I will buy a round or two of ice-cold Yeunglings at Urban Flats for a few chosen conservatives.

Originally Posted by buggyone

The GOP's are going to have to find a really good candidate who is middle of the road (not far left like Bachmann) if they want a chance of beating President Obama. Romney has too much baggage, Perry is too evangelical, Palin has too much sense to give up her book deals, and Pawlenty has put his foot in his mouth too many times.

I personally believe the Democrat ticket will be Obama and Hillary Clinton when Joe Biden "decides" not to run based on family time.

The Democrat ticket will win again. At that time I will buy a round or two of ice-cold Yeunglings at Urban Flats for a few chosen conservatives.

TBUGS returns

I am trying to figure out what "baggage" Mitt Romeny has. Do you mean Massachusetts health care or the fact the we was never a "community orginizer"?