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Old 06-19-2012, 10:30 AM
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.... And 66% of independents approve .......
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:37 AM
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From the Bloomberg.com news on June 19 -

"Obama, who has long backed legislation offering young immigrants a pathway to citizenship, announced a Department of Homeland Security directive forbidding the federal government from initiating the deportation of illegal immigrants under the age of 30 who came to the U.S. before age 16; have lived in the country for at least five years; have no criminal records; and are in school, high school graduates, or military veterans.

The decision left Republicans struggling to respond, trapped between alienating their political base and sending a negative signal to the Hispanic community and independent voters. A majority -- 56 percent -- of likely Republican voters opposed the decision, while almost nine in 10, or 86 percent, of Democrats supported it. Sixty-five percent of independents backed the policy change, while 26 percent disagreed.

Romney, the presumed Republican presidential nominee, has refused to say whether he would reverse the decision if he’s elected.

Yesterday, Senator Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican, dropped plans to introduce legislation that would grant work visas to some young people brought to the U.S. illegally. The president’s decision undercut momentum for Rubio’s plans, said Alex Conant, the senator’s spokesman."


Yes, this was a truly brilliant idea by President Obama and the Republicans and Teapartiers are sputtering helpless in the water about this action.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:22 AM
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I love people making claims and providing no evidence but only conjecture.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:34 AM
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Can't wait to hear what Mitt Romney proposes when he speaks to the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials on Thursday in Orlando. He will have had almost a week to come up with his immigration plan since the president's announcement on Friday. It will be interesting to see if he sticks with his hard-core primary position of having all illegals deported to their home countries to get in line for immigration.

Romney talking about alternative proposals for children of illegal immigrants

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/art...nclick_check=1

Perhaps after he answers these questions, he will tell us how he proposes to pay for his five trillion dollars in tax cuts.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:46 AM
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Just another poll huh hich let them all in what do we care drive the country down farther.
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:02 PM
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Just another poll huh hich let them all in what do we care drive the country down farther.
I would like see the poll or news article citing it, is all. When I cite a story or a poll or a comment, I link it.

It's a bit rude, in my opinion, to expect others to redo the legwork if you've already done it.

I assume that the story or source is extremely suspect and that is why the "source" is omitted.
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:21 PM
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why should Romney be held accountable for how he would pay for ANYTHING he proposes?

That is obviously not a requirement nor is it a care of Obama and his supporters......while promising and spending and bailing out and proposing new give aways....there has ever been a commitment of how these programs will be paid for.

Now just why is it OK for him to spend out of control....borrowing 40 cents of every dollar....without a budget? Why???????

There certainly would not be a double standard in the party thinking.....is there?

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Old 06-19-2012, 12:59 PM
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BTK is right. After all, Newt Moonbeam did not ever say how he was going to pay for an American colony on the Moon, did he, and yet there were lots of wubers who voted for him in the primary.

I am sure that Mitt Romney would have a plan similar to the plans of Bain Captial when they bought an insolvent company, raided all the assets, fired employees right and left, and sold the scraps.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:11 PM
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Since Mitt Romney has aligned himself with the Ryan Budget, it's more likely he'll want to pay for his five trillion dollars in tax cuts with cuts in government programs, such as ending Medicare as we know it and replacing it with a voucher system. Just hope nobody has an existing medical condition, because they could be denied coverage if the Affordable Care Act gets overturned.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:23 PM
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Like all polls, it depends upon whom is actually ASKED to participate in the poll.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:34 PM
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I would like see the poll or news article citing it, is all. When I cite a story or a poll or a comment, I link it.

It's a bit rude, in my opinion, to expect others to redo the legwork if you've already done it.

I assume that the story or source is extremely suspect and that is why the "source" is omitted.
The Bloomberg Survey found just 30% of likely voters disagreed with the president's plan.


Obama immigration shift a hit with voters, says new poll - ABC News
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:04 PM
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I love people making claims and providing no evidence but only conjecture.
Just out of curiosity, what's "conjecture" about Rubio suddenly stopping work on a Dream Act that he would introduce? Or Romney simply avoiding saying anything about whether he's for or against the content of the Executive Order? Neither are conjecture; both are facts, as the result of several interviews of both men over the weekend.

Actually, I've answered my own question. The silence by both Rubio and Romney leaves the voters to conjecture whether they're for or against what the Executive Order specifies.

I intend to vote for Romney, but I'd sure like to know what he's thinking with regard to this element of the immigration problem. Does he agree with it? Will be reverse the order if he is elected and begin again to prosecute the young illegals, all of whom would be pretty outstanding citizens as the order specifies? Will he introduce immigration legislation? What will be the important elements of legislation he might introduce?

It seems to me that the politics just go on. If Obama is for something, Romney and the GOP must be against it...even if last week they were for it!
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The real problem here is that BHO circunvented the Congress to do this. He ignored the Constitution, He had solid Democract majorities in Congress for his first two years and could have gotten this passed the legal way.

Plus the Republican plan would have worked Constitionaly through Congress and then BHO would have to sign it.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:26 PM
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Just out of curiosity, what's "conjecture" about Rubio suddenly stopping work on a Dream Act that he would introduce? Or Romney simply avoiding saying anything about whether he's for or against the content of the Executive Order? Neither are conjecture; both are facts, as the result of several interviews of both men over the weekend.

Actually, I've answered my own question. The silence by both Rubio and Romney leaves the voters to conjecture whether they're for or against what the Executive Order specifies.

I intend to vote for Romney, but I'd sure like to know what he's thinking with regard to this element of the immigration problem. Does he agree with it? Will be reverse the order if he is elected and begin again to prosecute the young illegals, all of whom would be pretty outstanding citizens as the order specifies? Will he introduce immigration legislation? What will be the important elements of legislation he might introduce?

It seems to me that the politics just go on. If Obama is for something, Romney and the GOP must be against it...even if last week they were for it!
VK...this must be one of the polls that you like, huh...no railing on this one !!!

But I have a question....the new announcement, if I understood correctly and it is possible that I did not, gives work rights to illegals to compete with US citizens IF they meet certain criteria, one of which is being here so many years.

How can anyone verify the amount of time an ILLEGAL has been here ? Are/were there Illegal stamps of some sort to verify this as a USA citizen must do to get a job ?

Just curious
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:33 PM
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I am confused, not that uncommon, but doesn't the fact that 64% polled agree with the decision to provide work visas but still somehow all repubs are against Latinos? I don't think the math works out.
I think this poll shows that all the finger pointing and accusing from the "holier than thou" left that GOP leaning voters are against Latinos is just wishful thinking.
Besides all the Pres did was fill his vast vacuum of a head with a GOP idea making it look like it was his!
So I think your poll shows that your generalizing and stereotyping the GOP is just wrong and only a device for your lefty agenda to divide the country, and it did not.
 


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