[Madelaine Amee]

I read today about the unimaginable violence of the killing of the 29 students and one teacher at the boarding school in Nigeria. I am a bit squeamish, but I made myself read it through to the end, read about the little boy who had his fingers shot off his writing hand, read about the women screaming in anguish when they tried to identify their children.

Whatever can be done to end this escalating violence which is spreading to every country in the world.

These people are trying to bring their own people back into the dark ages while the rest of the world is advancing technologically by leaps and bounds every day. They have to be stopped, but how does one go about it?

Pity Old Dave has gone off this chat line, he would have had some great thoughts on this massive problem.

[kittygilchrist]

nothing. I have smaller fish to fry.

[perrjojo]

They have been that way for thousands of years....guess it won't change.

[gomoho]

Pray - that is the best I have to offer. I understand your reluctance to read the story - it is heartbreaking to know these things are happening in our lifetimes. So I say again -pray for your own peace of mind and peace to that part of the world. You are not alone with this pain.

[Monkei]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

I read today about the unimaginable violence of the killing of the 29 students and one teacher at the boarding school in Nigeria. I am a bit squeamish, but I made myself read it through to the end, read about the little boy who had his fingers shot off his writing hand, read about the women screaming in anguish when they tried to identify their children.

Whatever can be done to end this escalating violence which is spreading to every country in the world.

These people are trying to bring their own people back into the dark ages while the rest of the world is advancing technologically by leaps and bounds every day. They have to be stopped, but how does one go about it?

Pity Old Dave has gone off this chat line, he would have had some great thoughts on this massive problem.

According to statistics I have a better chance of dying by my TV falling off its stand on me than Islamic terrorism. We got a heck of a lot more stuff to fix here in the US than to worry about Nigeria.

My answer is also nothing.

[Monkei]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Pray - that is the best I have to offer. I understand your reluctance to read the story - it is heartbreaking to know these things are happening in our lifetimes. So I say again -pray for your own peace of mind and peace to that part of the world. You are not alone with this pain.

Don't you think those people were already praying? Until we figure out that our god is no better or worse than anyone else's we will continue down this path of religious violence.

[ijusluvit]

I think the first practical stopgap is to prevent the possibility of Islamists forming closed communities in the US which ultimately assert that they are governed by Sharia law. This is a problem in Europe, even in nations where the Muslim population is still very small. These communities essentially withdraw from the home country's society. Law enforcement officers are sometimes afraid to enter the area, so the laws of the land are not enforced, and Sharia law becomes defacto. It is not unusual for extremists to emerge from these communities anxious to spread terrorism elsewhere.

This is not farfetched. Remember, we have militia groups living by their own rules in various places in the country. Thankfully, to date we have not allowed these groups or individuals to violate our laws outside of their private compounds, and we make some effort, although with some controversy, to compel them to obey the law where thy do live.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by Monkei

According to statistics I have a better chance of dying by my TV falling off its stand on me than Islamic terrorism. We got a heck of a lot more stuff to fix here in the US than to worry about Nigeria.

My answer is also nothing.

How quickly people forget the people who were killed, maimed and had legs blown off in Boston, Massachusetts less than 3 months ago...by two creeps that were "terrorists", regardless of how formal their ties were or not to these terrorist groups mentioned in the indictments:

"The Islamic organization that includes Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s mosque has ties to the al-Qaeda operative that reportedly inspired Tsarnaev to carry out the Boston Marathon terrorist attack, according to FBI surveillance documents.

Tsarnaev, 19, was indicted Thursday on 30 criminal counts related to the April 15 bombing at the Boston Marathon, which was allegedly carried out by Tsarnaev and his late brother Tamerlan. The bombing left three people dead and numerous others injured, and resulted in a manhunt during which a Boston-area campus police officer was shot and killed.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev reportedly left a note in the boat he hid in during the manhunt claiming that he bombed the Boston Marathon as retribution for U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

“When you attack one Muslim, you attack all Muslims,” Tsarnaev wrote.

Prior to the Boston Marathon attack, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who attended the Islamic Society of Boston mosque in Cambridge, downloaded radical Islamic propaganda from the Internet, including materials authored by Anwar al-Awlaki, the senior al Qaeda operative who was killed in a U.S. drone strike in Yemen on September 30, 2011. Tsarnaev also downloaded a summer 2010 edition of the al Qaeda magazine “Inspire,” which included bomb-making instructions and which is thought to have been the work of al-Awlaki.

Al-Awlaki lived in the United States between 1990 and 2002, when he moved to the United Kingdom before eventually relocating to Yemen, where he where worked for al-Qaeda and produced propaganda tapes and other materials urging Muslims to commit terrorist attacks against the United States.

Suhaib Webb, imam of the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center in Roxbury, spoke alongside al-Awlaki at a September 9, 2001 fundraiser at the University of California at Irvine, according to FBI surveillance documents. The fundraiser was intended to raise money for the legal defense of H. Rap Brown, an Atlanta-based Islamic radical who shot and killed two Georgia police officers. Webb and al-Awlaki helped raise $100,000 to defend Brown, who was eventually convicted for his crimes......

Read more: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's imam shares ties with senior al-Qaeda operative | The Daily Caller

[waynet]

I think Religions are basically violent organizations Islam or Christian or Jewish,does not matter.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by waynet

I think Religions are basically violent organizations Islam or Christian or Jewish,does not matter.

How can you say that? I am 73 years old and never met anyone from the American Christian or Jewish communities who were taught to harm us.

Have we forgotten nine eleven and Boston so recently? I know that not all Muslims are extremists but still. Who does things like that if they have a heart and a conscience, kill innocent people in the name of God? Not any religion that I know of personally.

[golf2140]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

How can you say that? I am 73 years old and never met anyone from the Christian or Jewish communities who were taught to harm us.

Have we forgotten nine eleven and Boston so recently? I know that not all Muslims are extremists but still. Who does things like that if they have a heart and a conscience, kill innocent people in the name of God? Not any religion that I know of personally.

[Monkei]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

How can you say that? I am 73 years old and never met anyone from the American Christian or Jewish communities who were taught to harm us.

Have we forgotten nine eleven and Boston so recently? I know that not all Muslims are extremists but still. Who does things like that if they have a heart and a conscience, kill innocent people in the name of God? Not any religion that I know of personally.

Wrong.

Timothy McVey was a Christian. There have been TONS of Christians who terrorized and killed fellow American citizens because of their skin color, religion, and sexual persuasion. We formed the country by killing savages because we were spreading the teachings of the good book taking their land along the way. Christian missionaries basically stole all the land from the native Hawaiians.

Please don't tell me that Christians are members of the good religion and Muslims are bad members of theirs.

When you asked me who does things ike that? I think you got your answer. We are no better or worse than they are. The only difference is we carry a big stick and they carry a little one.

[JP]

When I asked my highly educated and I think intelligent new partner, who is Persian, how we can improve our relationships with the Iranians, he said, "there is no way, they all must die". I was shocked but it made me think that there are so many people in that region and the world that feel the same way as he does that it is going to be a long and hard struggle for the entire world.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by JP

When I asked my highly educated and I think intelligent new partner, who is Persian, how we can improve our relationships with the Iranians, he said, "there is no way, they all must die". I was shocked but it made me think that there are so many people in that region and the world that feel the same way as he does that it is going to be a long and hard struggle for the entire world.

I think your highly educated and intelligent partner from Persia is being highly realistic.....sees there is no rational talk nor diplomacy that's going to change the leaders' minds about wanting us and Israel wiped off the face of the earth.

And so some would have us just sit here twiddling our thumbs, being sitting ducks.....unprepared and unarmed, waiting for the next 9-11 but worse.

[l2ridehd]

This is a struggle that has been going on for thousands of years. It will continue until one side completely eliminates the other. The Muslims will not be satisfied until 100% of the world adheres to their laws and beliefs. And the Christians and Jews will never allow that to happen until they stop it or die trying. As long as any religion believes they must have everyone believe as they do, it will continue.

And for those of you who want to stick your head in the sand and ignore it, you or your children and definitely your grand children will pay the price for that folly. Everyone says it's just a few extremists who are out killing people, however the real major issues is the rest of the Muslim religion condones it and does nothing to stop it. I know several Muslims and have discussed this issue with them. And while they will say "it's awful or I would never do that" and while they actually prefer to live in peace, they believe those extremists have a right to do what they are doing. They don't encourage it, they don't engage in it, but they don't denounce it either.

A global religious war will eventually destroy our civilization as we know it.