[Madelaine Amee]

We lived and worked in the UK for several years and still have British friends who regularly keep in touch with us. This email and video was sent to us by one of them, this to me is horrifying and should be shown all over the civilized world.

First, the email from our friends:
It is amazing for me to see the influx of muslims; however, the real shocker is to see the much larger U.K. cities that have been taken over by Islamics such as Birmingham .

And, as you already know, on Friday afternoons, some of the major streets in London are completely shut down by hoards of Muslims who fill the streets for prayer, thus stopping all traffic.

I hate to add, there seems to be absolutely no solution in sight for this exponentially growing take over by a foreign religious culture that does not assimilate but actually conflicts with British culture.

A Homecoming. If we don't wise up, this is what we will soon face in the USA.& Canada

An English girl returns home. Poignant.
Everyone should see this.

LiveLeak.com - The Horrific Muslim Infiltration Of Britain

We know that this is not happening just in the UK, but is spreading all over Europe. Frightening stuff! There must be people here in TV who remember, if vaguely, how the Nazi Party was able to take over Germany, people were apathetic and thought they were a "fringe group"!

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

We lived and worked in the UK for several years and still have British friends who regularly keep in touch with us. This email and video was sent to us by one of them, this to me is horrifying and should be shown all over the civilized world.

First, the email from our friends:
It is amazing for me to see the influx of muslims; however, the real shocker is to see the much larger U.K. cities that have been taken over by Islamics such as Birmingham .

And, as you already know, on Friday afternoons, some of the major streets in London are completely shut down by hoards of Muslims who fill the streets for prayer, thus stopping all traffic.

I hate to add, there seems to be absolutely no solution in sight for this exponentially growing take over by a foreign religious culture that does not assimilate but actually conflicts with British culture.

A Homecoming. If we don't wise up, this is what we will soon face in the USA.& Canada

An English girl returns home. Poignant.
Everyone should see this.

LiveLeak.com - The Horrific Muslim Infiltration Of Britain

We know that this is not happening just in the UK, but is spreading all over Europe. Frightening stuff! There must be people here in TV who remember, if vaguely, how the Nazi Party was able to take over Germany, people were apathetic and thought they were a "fringe group"!

This video is chilling and makes the point. I would really be curious to see how people advocating "more understanding" and "the bad guys are just a small percentage" along with "Christians have done horrible things etcc" respond to this. It is right there for you to assess. This is NOT what we want in America ... period.

The UK is pretty much toast. We still have time to state the obvious ... unless Muslims assimilate (which means they become melting pot Americans like everyone else) it's NOT going to work. And we should face that reality. The Brits obviously have not and seem to be truly crippled by the PC disease coupled with multiculturalism gone amok

[graciegirl]

I am trying to understand this.

It is wrong to be so polite in this world and so "correct" that we can't talk about real things that are happening.

I am shocked to find that I must be a racist. I certainly didn't want to be.

I generally meet each new person in my life and just see that person, not their skin tone on their faith. But I can see that I have changed into something that I have never admired. I still do that, but the world is changing and hatred is stewing.

I keep trying to find some clue as to how to do what is the right thing, without ignoring what is changing.

I feel a cold creeping fear that I have never encountered in my life.

I am trying to understand and find out just what I think.

I am trying to keep an open mind and find some tools in dealing with a completely new situation....in my heart.

I hope that the world situation does not enter our back yard.

That is so selfish.

What CAN be done to make this better.

I don't want to be a bigot or a racist. I want to be a person who finds good.

But I don't want to be unaware of things that are changing. And danger among us.

[quirky3]

The video I see at that link is of one peaceful, law-abiding demonstration in one city by a group of people who have a strong opinion about one event. Not infiltration of an entire country.
I have a close family member who belongs to a christian community with thousands of members all over the world. They dictate what women are allowed to wear, make them subservient to men, and believe that anyone who is not a devout member of their group will burn in hell (including me!). Just sayin!

[ajbrown]

I can look past the demonstration and comments about clothes. Folks have a right to believe what they will, BUT.....

I find the exchange at 3:17ish on the video about the law of the land chilling.

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by quirky3

The video I see at that link is of one peaceful, law-abiding demonstration in one city by a group of people who have a strong opinion about one event. Not infiltration of an entire country.

In what way was that demonstration peaceful? Did you have your sound turned off!

[BarryRX]

Frightening!

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

We lived and worked in the UK for several years and still have British friends who regularly keep in touch with us. This email and video was sent to us by one of them, this to me is horrifying and should be shown all over the civilized world.

First, the email from our friends:
It is amazing for me to see the influx of muslims; however, the real shocker is to see the much larger U.K. cities that have been taken over by Islamics such as Birmingham .

And, as you already know, on Friday afternoons, some of the major streets in London are completely shut down by hoards of Muslims who fill the streets for prayer, thus stopping all traffic.

I hate to add, there seems to be absolutely no solution in sight for this exponentially growing take over by a foreign religious culture that does not assimilate but actually conflicts with British culture.

A Homecoming. If we don't wise up, this is what we will soon face in the USA.& Canada

An English girl returns home. Poignant.
Everyone should see this.

LiveLeak.com - The Horrific Muslim Infiltration Of Britain

We know that this is not happening just in the UK, but is spreading all over Europe. Frightening stuff! There must be people here in TV who remember, if vaguely, how the Nazi Party was able to take over Germany, people were apathetic and thought they were a "fringe group"!

This is a screed filled with Islamophobia. There are hordes of them, hordes. (By the way your friend might want to learn the difference between horde and hoard) They have taken over Birmingham (and her evidence for that is.... crickets) as if members of a religion can't choose to live near each other (see Utah and Mormons as a US example of a "take over".. how horrible) And these non-assimilating foreign religion praying exponentially fertile people (your friend forgot to say usually people of color) aren't WASPs. And those major streets in London that are regularly shut down every Friday are... ?? (google can't find any stories about this problem) Sounds like the same reasons good old Americans fought against Catholics and of course Jews with their foreign religion and refusal to assimilate and their strange customs Anti-Catholicism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know we no longer have the Russians or the Chinese to hate and fear. And hating Jews is temporarily out of fashion and hating blacks is kept in the privacy of the home. What is left to hate and fear except Islam, and of course atheists who actually are the lowest group in the willingness of Americans to accept as a President Atheists, Muslims See Most Bias as Presidential Candidates with their wanting to end America by taking In God we Trust off the coins. And what screed would be complete without at least one good Nazi reference. And you kept me waiting so long for it to finally happen.

I accept that the world can be scary. I know that there are issues with the successful working of a free and open society. I understand that fear of otherness is not only common but may be instinctive and protective. I ask that everyone however not resort to wild invective, misleading stories, and fear mongering.

As to the video. Perhaps you researched the backstory, or perhaps you didn't. It was a protest which lasted about one hour (but just happened to be the exact time the video team was walking the town for her homecoming) by about 80 people against a police action. Two Muslim women were (allegedly) strip searched by male police Muslims protest against police ''mistreatment'' | Local News in Luton, Dunstable and Bedfordshire

One protester, Anjem Choudary, said: “Two women were strip-searched – one in her house in front of her children, and the other at a police station.

“It is continuing the demonisation of Muslims and primarily women whose honour was violated.” According to the Police and Criminal Evidence Act, ‘a strip-search may take place only if it is considered necessary to remove an article which a detainee would not be allowed to keep, and the officer reasonably considers the detainee might have concealed such an article’.


I know nothing of the facts of the strip search in Luton, whether it happened, whether it was done by male or female officers, and whether the gender of the officer is regulated under British law. But I do understand that in Islam the female body is kept hidden and that a devout Muslim would be outraged if Muslim women were being improperly stripped. (I would hope that you would be outraged if any woman of any faith was being strip searched without sufficient cause.) That allegation is what led to a march to the police station in Luton which this "English girl returns home" came prepared to film and goaded the marchers who were already upset against the perceived (real or not) offense to Muslim women into being argumentative. I must say I especially enjoyed her outrage that the ?cleric told her that unless she is a Muslim she is going to hell. How dare a religious person tell anyone that only their faith's followers have any chance of going to heaven. Never heard that kind of statement from any of America's religious leaders or the church goers. Here is a summary of a PEW survey (don't you love the accidental pun, pew) on what a Muslim would be told by Americans about his chance of going to heaven
Can Atheists Go to Heaven?
MUSLIMS
* 20% of white evangelicals think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 46% of white mainline protestants think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 34% of protestants at historically Black churches, think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 49% of white Catholics think Muslims can go to Heaven.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by blueash

This is a screed filled with Islamophobia. There are hordes of them, hordes. (By the way your friend might want to learn the difference between horde and hoard) They have taken over Birmingham (and her evidence for that is.... crickets) as if members of a religion can't choose to live near each other (see Utah and Mormons as a US example of a "take over".. how horrible) And these non-assimilating foreign religion praying exponentially fertile people (your friend forgot to say usually people of color) aren't WASPs. And those major streets in London that are regularly shut down every Friday are... ?? (google can't find any stories about this problem) Sounds like the same reasons good old Americans fought against Catholics and of course Jews with their foreign religion and refusal to assimilate and their strange customs Anti-Catholicism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know we no longer have the Russians or the Chinese to hate and fear. And hating Jews is temporarily out of fashion and hating blacks is kept in the privacy of the home. What is left to hate and fear except Islam, and of course atheists who actually are the lowest group in the willingness of Americans to accept as a President Atheists, Muslims See Most Bias as Presidential Candidates with their wanting to end America by taking In God we Trust off the coins. And what screed would be complete without at least one good Nazi reference. And you kept me waiting so long for it to finally happen.

I accept that the world can be scary. I know that there are issues with the successful working of a free and open society. I understand that fear of otherness is not only common but may be instinctive and protective. I ask that everyone however not resort to wild invective, misleading stories, and fear mongering.

As to the video. Perhaps you researched the backstory, or perhaps you didn't. It was a protest which lasted about one hour (but just happened to be the exact time the video team was walking the town for her homecoming) by about 80 people against a police action. Two Muslim women were (allegedly) strip searched by male police Muslims protest against police ''mistreatment'' | Local News in Luton, Dunstable and Bedfordshire

One protester, Anjem Choudary, said: “Two women were strip-searched – one in her house in front of her children, and the other at a police station.

“It is continuing the demonisation of Muslims and primarily women whose honour was violated.” According to the Police and Criminal Evidence Act, ‘a strip-search may take place only if it is considered necessary to remove an article which a detainee would not be allowed to keep, and the officer reasonably considers the detainee might have concealed such an article’.


I know nothing of the facts of the strip search in Luton, whether it happened, whether it was done by male or female officers, and whether the gender of the officer is regulated under British law. But I do understand that in Islam the female body is kept hidden and that a devout Muslim would be outraged if Muslim women were being improperly stripped. (I would hope that you would be outraged if any woman of any faith was being strip searched without sufficient cause.) That allegation is what led to a march to the police station in Luton which this "English girl returns home" came prepared to film and goaded the marchers who were already upset against the perceived (real or not) offense to Muslim women into being argumentative. I must say I especially enjoyed her outrage that the ?cleric told her that unless she is a Muslim she is going to hell. How dare a religious person tell anyone that only their faith's followers have any chance of going to heaven. Never heard that kind of statement from any of America's religious leaders or the church goers. Here is a summary of a PEW survey (don't you love the accidental pun, pew) on what a Muslim would be told by Americans about his chance of going to heaven
Can Atheists Go to Heaven?
MUSLIMS
* 20% of white evangelicals think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 46% of white mainline protestants think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 34% of protestants at historically Black churches, think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 49% of white Catholics think Muslims can go to Heaven.

" I ask that everyone however not resort to wild invective, misleading stories, and fear mongering. "

The above quote from the post strikes me as the one I will go by.

I will not and do not resort to wild invective, misleading stories and fear mongering.

I will, however, use my common sense and my native intellect to decide whom I wish to trust and whom I do not as we all have in our lives.

Those who have been preaching to me how terrible I, and others like me, are because we fear something that WANTS to be mysterious, has beheaded fellow citizen, has decried all fibers of our society, who publicly keeps on saying they want to kill us can preach all they want.

You can bring up crusades (a medivial reaction to muslim terrorism), past history, other religions, whatever you want to defend those who want to kill me and my ilk.

I will decide FOR ME who to fear and will not fear you (a generic you for those of this ilk who want to make us all feel guilty) calling me a racist or whatever name you might choose.

I have seen public beheadings....I have witnessed terrorism WORLD WIDE.....I have heard the threats on my country....I have heard the threats on my fellow citizens.

Thank you for your lecture, but I do not have "Islamophobia" or any other phobia that is used today to make people feel guilty. We are not discussing here how to react to a neighbor.....how to react to another golfer......we are discussing reacting to a WORLD WIDE movement with public goals stated very very clearly and a movement who not only states what they want, but shows the mean it.

Not going to feel guilty.......and as far as those in public service, responsible for my safety, I applaud whatever they do in the interest of my and others safety.

To those who have hurt feelings on any of this because of your heritage, I ask you to turn your anger in the right direction. To those who cause fear...to those who have no respect for human lives and have put you under the microscope.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by quirky3

The video I see at that link is of one peaceful, law-abiding demonstration in one city by a group of people who have a strong opinion about one event. Not infiltration of an entire country.
I have a close family member who belongs to a christian community with thousands of members all over the world. They dictate what women are allowed to wear, make them subservient to men, and believe that anyone who is not a devout member of their group will burn in hell (including me!). Just sayin!

It's quite interesting to me that you can see the video and pretty much say ... nothing to see here, and then still equate it with contemporary Christianity. I'll leave it at that and simply note perceptions can obviously be poles apart.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by blueash

This is a screed filled with Islamophobia. There are hordes of them, hordes. (By the way your friend might want to learn the difference between horde and hoard) They have taken over Birmingham (and her evidence for that is.... crickets) as if members of a religion can't choose to live near each other (see Utah and Mormons as a US example of a "take over".. how horrible) And these non-assimilating foreign religion praying exponentially fertile people (your friend forgot to say usually people of color) aren't WASPs. And those major streets in London that are regularly shut down every Friday are... ?? (google can't find any stories about this problem) Sounds like the same reasons good old Americans fought against Catholics and of course Jews with their foreign religion and refusal to assimilate and their strange customs Anti-Catholicism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know we no longer have the Russians or the Chinese to hate and fear. And hating Jews is temporarily out of fashion and hating blacks is kept in the privacy of the home. What is left to hate and fear except Islam, and of course atheists who actually are the lowest group in the willingness of Americans to accept as a President Atheists, Muslims See Most Bias as Presidential Candidates with their wanting to end America by taking In God we Trust off the coins. And what screed would be complete without at least one good Nazi reference. And you kept me waiting so long for it to finally happen.

I accept that the world can be scary. I know that there are issues with the successful working of a free and open society. I understand that fear of otherness is not only common but may be instinctive and protective. I ask that everyone however not resort to wild invective, misleading stories, and fear mongering.

As to the video. Perhaps you researched the backstory, or perhaps you didn't. It was a protest which lasted about one hour (but just happened to be the exact time the video team was walking the town for her homecoming) by about 80 people against a police action. Two Muslim women were (allegedly) strip searched by male police Muslims protest against police ''mistreatment'' | Local News in Luton, Dunstable and Bedfordshire

One protester, Anjem Choudary, said: “Two women were strip-searched – one in her house in front of her children, and the other at a police station.

“It is continuing the demonisation of Muslims and primarily women whose honour was violated.” According to the Police and Criminal Evidence Act, ‘a strip-search may take place only if it is considered necessary to remove an article which a detainee would not be allowed to keep, and the officer reasonably considers the detainee might have concealed such an article’.


I know nothing of the facts of the strip search in Luton, whether it happened, whether it was done by male or female officers, and whether the gender of the officer is regulated under British law. But I do understand that in Islam the female body is kept hidden and that a devout Muslim would be outraged if Muslim women were being improperly stripped. (I would hope that you would be outraged if any woman of any faith was being strip searched without sufficient cause.) That allegation is what led to a march to the police station in Luton which this "English girl returns home" came prepared to film and goaded the marchers who were already upset against the perceived (real or not) offense to Muslim women into being argumentative. I must say I especially enjoyed her outrage that the ?cleric told her that unless she is a Muslim she is going to hell. How dare a religious person tell anyone that only their faith's followers have any chance of going to heaven. Never heard that kind of statement from any of America's religious leaders or the church goers. Here is a summary of a PEW survey (don't you love the accidental pun, pew) on what a Muslim would be told by Americans about his chance of going to heaven
Can Atheists Go to Heaven?
MUSLIMS
* 20% of white evangelicals think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 46% of white mainline protestants think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 34% of protestants at historically Black churches, think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 49% of white Catholics think Muslims can go to Heaven.

I really don't get where you jump to "this is just a bunch of Isalmophobia" and then throw in the various "hate" comparisons, and then conclude, in effect, there is no big deal here.

It's pretty obvious for those who can see, as the young woman in the video attempted to document. If one flat out wants to deny it, not much that can be done. You're entitled to your opinion of course ... as long as you live in a Sharia-free country that is.

[mulligan]

Now, someone's going to try to convince me this isn't political.

[billethkid]

when it is not in ones back yard or one who has no personal investment in a situation it is oh so simple to intellectualize/rationalize a situation......too many are of the school of PC (you know the liscence for not doing what is right) or the paermissive, why not, what's wrong with that group.

The threat has been proven to be there. The Muslim leadership has gone on record many many times about what they believe, and their commitment to remove those who do not believe.

Viewing the video as a peaceful demonstration......an entitled opinion but oh so very naievely incorrect. Just do some reading about the Muslim intrusion into the UK, France and even Germany (whoda thunk it!). The Muslim promoters look forward to naieve, permissive, timid societies as the USA is not so slowly becoming.

btk

[Bucco]

A quote from the Executive Director of the Council on American Islamic Relations...

"“If we are practicing Muslims, we are above the law of the land,” said Mustafa Carroll, executive director of the Dallas-Fort Worth CAIR branch."

This is a quote from March of this year.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/we-are-ab...w-of-the-land/

READ READ READ.

[quirky3]

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