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Old 02-03-2020, 07:22 AM
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What's the exact model number of your Sony TV?
Sony XBR75X900E
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Old 02-03-2020, 09:44 AM
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...If you are sitting 10 feet or more from a typical set (60-75") you won't be able to see the resolution increase from 1080p to 2160p...
With all due respect, simply not true.
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If you really want the best picture along with the lowest price you need Dish Network our Direct tv. .
Been there, done that. I'll take the 'not the best' picture that's always on over the best picture that is completely lost every time it's rainy, windy, cloudy... LOL. Just my personal preference.
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I have a 75 inch, 4K, UHD, HDR Sony television. I also have an Xfinity 4K cable box and an 4K dvd player. But, I have never been able to see the difference in picture quality when watching shows and movies in 4K. I have also tried watching 4K content directly from wifi streaming and have even paid extra to rent movies in 4K. But, I usually end up changing my cable box setting back to the 1080P HD setting because it fills up the screen better. I am going to try to watch the Super Bowl today in 4K, but I am not very optimistic that the picture will be better than my past experiences.
I agree retiredguy, I look at TV's all the time because I'm in the market for a little bigger TV. I look at the Samsung Q's & it's hard to see a whole lot of difference for the price, sometimes a couple of thousand dollars. I've got a cheap DYNEX TV & it's been trouble free for 9 yrs. now. & it's got a great picture. Just can't believe that some people really think they have to spend 3, 4 or $5,000. & try to make people think they have the clearest picture that money can buy. How in the world did we ever get through childhood with a RCA picture tube TV that sometimes was snowy, picture rolled & only had 5 or 6 channels. Nobody ever complained about clarity & we paid 2 or $300. dollars for a TV then. Good comment, retiredguy!
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Old 02-03-2020, 12:28 PM
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Sorry but you are wrong. The distances at which 4K has an advantage is widely known.

4K Resolution Does Matter – Here’s When – Carlton Bale .com

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Old 02-03-2020, 12:39 PM
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There aren't any 4K broadcasts available with an antenna (OTA), yet. I believe we may see some later this year or next.

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Just bought a 4K from Best Buy. The installer said cable companies do not broadcasting 4K. You get 4K from streaming or an antenna (really)

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Sorry but you are wrong. The distances at which 4K has an advantage is widely known...
Yes. And the many, many sources that convey them do not all agree down to the foot. I agree with your ballpark figures. But to make it sound so absolute is what I disagree with. Many factors come into play. Individual visual acuity, LED vs LCD vs Plasma, others. I sit roughly 9 feet from a 65” 4K TV and the difference is obvious...and very enjoyable.
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Old 02-03-2020, 02:04 PM
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The placebo effect at work. I doubt you ever ran a true A/B comparison and as I already stated if you see an improvement between 1080p and 4K material at typical viewing distances it is probably because of HDR. The physics of the situation are pretty clear. Regarding LCD and LED, they are essentially the same technology. What people call “LED” is an LCD with LED backlighting instead of fluorescent tubes.


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Yes. And the many, many sources that convey them do not all agree down to the foot. I agree with your ballpark figures. But to make it sound so absolute is what I disagree with. Many factors come into play. Individual visual acuity, LED vs LCD vs Plasma, others. I sit roughly 9 feet from a 65” 4K TV and the difference is obvious...and very enjoyable.
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Old 02-03-2020, 02:13 PM
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The placebo effect at work. I doubt you ever ran a true A/B comparison and as I already stated if you see an improvement between 1080p and 4K material at typical viewing distances it is probably because of HDR. The physics of the situation are pretty clear. Regarding LCD and LED, they are essentially the same technology. What people call “LED” is an LCD with LED backlighting instead of fluorescent tubes.
If you are correct, Best Buy is making a lot of money selling placebos. I wonder how much money they will make selling 8K TVs? I remember when the big thing was going from a 60hz refresh rate to 120hz and 240hz. Now most TVs are being made with the old 60hz refresh rate, I guess because nobody could tell the difference.
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Old 02-03-2020, 02:29 PM
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It is hard to sell a new TV without some new gimmick. And yes, I have a 4K TV and virtually all TVs are now 4K so you don’t have a choice. The limit for visual acuity for a 4K 65” TV is about 5 feet. Beyond that you won’t detect any improvement. Refresh rate may make a difference on some action sports. Regarding 8K TVs, they are just like 4K TVs - if you sit close enough you can see the difference. There is a relationship between the set size, the set resolution, and how close you sit to the set. Why do you think smart phones have such an outrageously high number DPI?


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If you are correct, Best Buy is making a lot of money selling placebos. I wonder how much money they will make selling 8K TVs? I remember when the big thing was going from a 60hz refresh rate to 120hz and 240hz. Now most TVs are being made with the old 60hz refresh rate, I guess because nobody could tell the difference.
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Old 02-03-2020, 05:45 PM
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Doesn't the Data usage change bigly when you stream with 4K vs 1080? OLED picture is the best in my opinion except last time I was in Best Buy the only brand they had was LG and for me that ain't happening no matter what Consumer Report says.

I can't see the difference from 1080 to 4K! I just know 4K will lump up your Data.
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