[ajbrown]

A buddy just sent this. Likely folks have seen it. It gave me a chuckle, but my humor is warped...

Jimmy Kimmel Commercial On United Airlines Passenger Dragged Off United Flight - YouTube

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by ajbrown

A buddy just sent this. Likely folk shave seen it. It gave me a chuckle, but my humor is warped...

Jimmy Kimmel Commercial On United Airlines Passenger Dragged Off United Flight - YouTube

I watched it as well. I too have a warped scense of humor.

[graciegirl]

I looked up Oscar Munoz because he is obviously a foot shooter. He is the oldest in his family of nine, and the first to attend College. Had a heart attack shortly after he took the position of President of United a couple years ago and has a heart transplant. He is married and has four children.

I don't think he is going to be President of United for much longer...just my guess.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I looked up Oscar Munoz because he is obviously a foot shooter. He is the oldest in his family of nine, and the first to attend College. Had a heart attack shortly after he took the position of President of United a couple years ago and has a heart transplant. He is married and has four children.

I don't think he is going to be President of United for much longer...just my guess.

I would agree. This was very poorly handled. Just the health portion is enough. I think he was caught off guard by the whole event. Everybody today just need to calm down.

[Henryk]

Originally Posted by NotFromAroundHere

It is very possible that you are missing something. We don't know why a relief crew was needed. We don't know when United/Republic found out they needed a relief crew. We don't know that the crew was needed in Louisville, or if that was just a connection to somewhere else. We don't know how long it took to determine that the best course of action was to fly a crew from Chicago to Louisville (and perhaps on from there). We don't know when the gate agents got the word that they needed 4 seats on the flight to Louisville. We don't know how that need was expressed to the agents in Chicago.

And I DON'T CARE! If I were seated and they tried to take me off the plane, it wouldn't be a quiet encounter--I'd scream bloody murder. But I would deplane.

[cologal]

Originally Posted by EPutnam1863

None of this would have happened if the passenger agreed to get off when ordered even if he was right. After all he could have been a terrorist, who knows?

He was not a terrorist! Next time you fly check the fine print on the ticket. All airlines have the right to remove from the plane for pretty much any reason at all and the can have you arrested and banned from that airline for life.

[cologal]

Originally Posted by Paper1

I believe they said flight was overbooked with no takers for a later flight. Picked name by random, according to what I heard. Should airline held up flight until he walked off on his own? Mistake made was letting him back on plane once decision was made. Overbooking is a fact of life, tickets and cancelations would be much more expensive without it.

It really wasn't an "overbooking" the flight was booked and the passengers on the plane when a flight crew of 4 came up and bumped 4 passengers of because they were needed to man a flight the next morning.

They offered $800.00 3 of the 4 took the money! They could have offered $1350.00 by law.

[Steve9930]

Why would you cause the commotion? I would terminate the employees on this flight. I would ask for the resignation of the CEO. The police officer is now suspended pending an investigation. There was absolutely no common sense exercised by this flight crew. Whoever the manager that was on duty should also be terminated. 5 1/2 hour drive by shuttle, really? I also would look at the next level of management because its evident he/she is not instilling the proper company values. Never, Never Never throw mama from the train! There is a camera everywhere! Let me get this through their heads, "There is a camera everywhere", what part of that did they not understand. The local employees do not even know their own rules. You do not board people and then take them off. You hold the boarding until you have 4 warm bodies, period. If you cannot handle such a simple common sense problem, what makes you think you can handle a real emergency. Totally unprofessional. There was a $$$$ number that would get you 4 warm bodies off that flight.

[joldnol]

Originally Posted by Paper1

Once again Americans are picking their heros poorly, this Dr is no hero. Agreed it was very unfortunate his number came up but his actions and the sensational way the story was presented by media has elevated him to sainthood with attorneys lined up 4 deep to "make him whole" against the airline industry. Kind of like David and Goliath. I think I'll wait for a different hero.

He is no hero but United is definitely the villain and were the party that was 100% wrong in this situation. They deserve the financial hit they are taking.

[rubicon]

One poster spoke of boilerplate contracts. another that you are at the mercy of an airline. yet another focuses on the individuals past.

It would seem as respects the legal/contractual/ aspect of an airline's legal right to overbook and the protocols that follow are really going to be tested given the potential money damages if this matter is decided in a courtroom. To be sure an attorney will tell you contracts were made to be broken.

There is something very wrong when a commercial business has the right under a situation such as this to have policing powers. This man was not a threat. He was not out of control. he was not suspected of being a terrorist. He reacted when provoked. Can the police be charged with assault and battery? I believe so.

He will not invoke a warm fuzzy feeling with a jury. However he had been judged, tried and paid for his past transgressions.

He can and should be judged and apportioned blame for any contributor negligence that he created to cause this situation.

Bottom line for me is that United had absolutely no right to accost this guy. If they had a problem getting a flight crew to another city then it was their problem to solve without disrupting customers who fulfilled their portion of the agreement. To suggest that a flight crew was more important than a paying customer flies in the face of common sense and good public relations

Personal Best Regards:

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by rubicon

One poster spoke of boilerplate contracts. another that you are at the mercy of an airline. yet another focuses on the individuals past.

It would seem as respects the legal/contractual/ aspect of an airline's legal right to overbook and the protocols that follow are really going to be tested given the potential money damages if this matter is decided in a courtroom. To be sure an attorney will tell you contracts were made to be broken.

There is something very wrong when a commercial business has the right under a situation such as this to have policing powers. This man was not a threat. He was not out of control. he was not suspected of being a terrorist. He reacted when provoked. Can the police be charged with assault and battery? I believe so.

He will not invoke a warm fuzzy feeling with a jury. However he had been judged, tried and paid for his past transgressions.

He can and should be judged and apportioned blame for any contributor negligence that he created to cause this situation.

Bottom line for me is that United had absolutely no right to accost this guy. If they had a problem getting a flight crew to another city then it was their problem to solve without disrupting customers who fulfilled their portion of the agreement. To suggest that a flight crew was more important than a paying customer flies in the face of common sense and good public relations

Personal Best Regards:

Yep, its sure does. There goes the CEO's bonus this year. This is going to be a big big big check. I hear he is playing this to the hilt. Still in the hospital. There will be 6 zeros behind this number. Definitely will not need to work ever again.

[mickey100]

"If they had just tried some diplomacy, none of this had to take place," passenger John Klaasen told CNN. I agreee. As others have said, they could have offered more money to induce people to give up their seats. Very poorly managed, and United has really taken a pubic relations dive since the incident. Not a very smart business move. It will cost them mucho in the long run.

[DARFAP]

Get all the facts first before judging

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[GatorFan]

I Know You’re Mad at United but… (Thoughts from a Pilot Wife About Flight 3411) – The Pilot Wife Life

[thelegges]

CEO on news this morning. He is apologizing now