[jjombrello]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Couldn’t get a lane to swim laps in the La Hacienda sports pool today. Building 45 apartments in SS, and granting the apartment dwellers amenity rights, in an area with already overcrowded amenities really sucks!

Why would you think that the apartment dwellers would be an added burden on the facilities? Might not the apartment dwellers be existing Villages residents who sell their homes and move to the apartments? Might they be the same people currently using the Hacienda pool and other facilities? If they pay their amenity fees, why would they not be entitled to use the facilities provided? In the long run, there may be no, or very little impact. How does one know and why speculate?

[zendog3]

I have always worried that one day, the developer will dump a lot of new Villagers into the existing amenities. They have consistently defied my fears by building more and better amenities as the Villages Grows. I do not think the developers work for money. That may have been the case once, but now they are building for their legacy -- they already have tones of money. Still, they have a growing brood of offspring needing to become millionaires.

I don't think apartments around SS is necessarily. The businesses thee need patrons, especially as older residents care less about visiting the square. Adding new residents without adding parking spaces should not be allowed. If the developer wants more income from new residents, he should build parking garages with reserved spaces for them. This is code in most places with high density populations.

If he refuses to provide parking when adding to the population, there would seem to be a good case for a lawsuit. If he reduces relative available parking, he is reducing the value of your investment without compensation. Of course, the developer has enormous financial and political power, and great lawyers. And he has shown to be absolutely ruthless in battling opponents.

[Rainger99]

Does the developer ever have public meetings where residents can ask questions about the future of The Villages?

It would be nice to have quarterly meetings where these issues could be addressed.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Does the developer ever have public meetings where residents can ask questions about the future of The Villages?

It would be nice to have quarterly meetings where these issues could be addressed.

It has always been a need to know, or we are doing/done this regime.
That's why the place works.
No committees or consultations.
Just a sign to say, 'please queue in an orderly fashion when buying!'

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Does the developer ever have public meetings where residents can ask questions about the future of The Villages?

It would be nice to have quarterly meetings where these issues could be addressed.

There is a once a year event at the Sharon put on by the HOA that the developer will speak at.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Does the developer ever have public meetings where residents can ask questions about the future of The Villages?

It would be nice to have quarterly meetings where these issues could be addressed.

No.
They are running a business not a club.
Stop and think how a meeting such as this would proceed…..

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

No.
They are running a business not a club.
Stop and think how a meeting such as this would proceed…..

True the developer is not running this place as a democracy. They have all the power and run the place as they see fit.

Overall they do a good job but sometimes _________/

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by jjombrello

Why would you think that the apartment dwellers would be an added burden on the facilities? Might not the apartment dwellers be existing Villages residents who sell their homes and move to the apartments? Might they be the same people currently using the Hacienda pool and other facilities? If they pay their amenity fees, why would they not be entitled to use the facilities provided? In the long run, there may be no, or very little impact. How does one know and why speculate?

And when they sell their homes to move into apartments the people buying their homes won’t be using the amenities? Adding apartments with amenity rights, but not adding amenities, puts further strain on the already overcrowded amenities in the area. If you aren’t aware, the La Hacienda sports pool is the first built and smallest sports pool in the Villages that is regulation length for lap swimming. It never offers dedicated lap swimming times, only open swim times with half the pool available for laps. That equates to only three lanes for lap swimming, typically only available for laps early morning and in the evening. It takes very little increased demand for such a limited amenity to become overstressed. Adding 45 apartments in SS, which is right next to La Hacienda, will not be good at all for existing lap swimming residents in that area. I am very pi$$ed at the AAC for granting additional amenity rights without any corresponding increase in available amenities. IMHO, the AAC really dropped the ball in that regard.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

There is a once a year event at the Sharon put on by the HOA that the developer will speak at.

Right, the annual dog and pony show where no questions are taken.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

True the developer is not running this place as a democracy. They have all the power and run the place as they see fit.

Overall they do a good job but sometimes _________/

________________only to a cadre of complainers.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

________________only to a cadre of complainers.

Sometimes the complainers have a very legitimate point and refuse to be a bunch of sheep.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Sometimes the complainers have a very legitimate point and refuse to be a bunch of sheep.

Seldom.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

And when they sell their homes to move into apartments the people buying their homes won’t be using the amenities? Adding apartments with amenity rights, but not adding amenities, puts further strain on the already overcrowded amenities in the area. If you aren’t aware, the La Hacienda sports pool is the first built and smallest sports pool in the Villages that is regulation length for lap swimming. It never offers dedicated lap swimming times, only open swim times with half the pool available for laps. That equates to only three lanes for lap swimming, typically only available for laps early morning and in the evening. It takes very little increased demand for such a limited amenity to become overstressed. Adding 45 apartments in SS, which is right next to La Hacienda, will not be good at all for existing lap swimming residents in that area. I am very pi$$ed at the AAC for granting additional amenity rights without any corresponding increase in available amenities. IMHO, the AAC really dropped the ball in that regard.

So, the possibility of an extra 90 people, most, if not all, of whom will never use the lap pools will have a severe impact on the pools which already serve what? 20, 30K people who currently live in the immediate SS area?

Not likely...

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by joelfmi

Thank You for your transparency One of the many reasons I would not buy at the villages

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You've been complaining about the Villages "Smoke & Mirrors" for some time... Nearly two years and you don't even own here?

What, you keep renting, just so you can complain? Or, do you live in one of the surrounding area and just like to complain?

Come on Joe, we are waiting.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

So, the possibility of an extra 90 people, most, if not all, of whom will never use the lap pools will have a severe impact on the pools which already serve what? 20, 30K people who currently live in the immediate SS area?

Not likely...

Best to stick to posting about things that you aren’t absolutely clueless about. How many times every week do you try to fit swimming laps into your schedule? Are you aware which sports pools have open swim and lap swimming opportunities each day of the week and at what time, how many lanes are available in each pool, when the pools are more likely to be crowded, which sport pools are closed for maintenance and how that will effect the nearby pools, how early you need to show up before an organized water activity ends to attempt to get a swim lane, or what the etiquette is for sharing lanes? I swim laps 6 days a week on average and often all seven days and have swam multiple times in every sports pools north of 44. I have easily swam laps well over 100 times at La Hacienda, Laurel Manor, Lake Miona, and Mulberry and just crossed the 150 mile mark for 2022. Your post doesn’t reflect reality, and I know what I am talking about regarding the topic. I live by the sports pool schedules published in the Recreation News section of the Daily Sun every Thursday.