[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by downeaster

This subject has been so misrepresented. Because you read it here doesn't make so. I can't help but wonder how many potential prospective Villagers have not followed through due to their misunderstanding of info they read here. Just read the text of the act (law?) before you decide. There are a number of posts here that quote the law correctly as well as posts with valid links.

Please folks. Do diligent research before before posting. Do not post based on here say. Do not post based on info from a real estate "professional".

Readers are making some very serious decisions so lets not mislead them.

Keep in mind it is not your opinion that is important, it is the facts that count.

For those who keep posting erroneous info, please back off.

You know I think that the posters who post erroneous info, do it to support their own agenda, be it another development or ...?????

Many of us try to quell rumors and try to correct misinformation but it is an endless challenge. I just hope that people who want to live here and enjoy life like we do get the correct information.

[Retiring]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Don't believe those weather reports at 40,000 ft.
Heat index didn't get over 110, ground level

I�m looking at a report right now. It was taken at 3:58pm on Aug. 20, 2015 at The Villages, FL.

Temp 90
Humidity 100%
Pres. 29.88 and falling.
Visibility 10 miles
Precip. 0
K-Index less than 20
Wind 090/7
Heat index 122

I followed TV weather everyday for 2 weeks this summer. There is no way to sugarcoat central FL summer weather, it�s rough. As I did for the 10yrs I lived in the area, we cope :-)

[twoplanekid]

It’s all a communist plot or so I have been told. When in doubt, call your Village sales rep or the Villages directly for answers to questions that are important to you.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Retiring

I’m looking at a report right now. It was taken at 3:58pm on Aug. 20, 2015 at The Villages, FL.

Temp 90
Humidity 100%
Pres. 29.88 and falling.
Visibility 10 miles
Precip. 0
K-Index less than 20
Wind 090/7
Heat index 122

I followed TV weather everyday for 2 weeks this summer. There is no way to sugarcoat central FL summer weather, it’s rough. As I did for the 10yrs I lived in the area, we cope :-)

That sounds about right and fairly representative of a summer day in central Florida. It is what it is.

Back in the late 1960's an aunt and uncle moved from Towson, MD to Winterhaven, FL (where Publix opened its first store) and lived there for over 30 years. Winterhaven is a bit south of TV. I used to visit them there rather frequently as I owned some commercial property in Lakeland and I needed to visit it several times a year. I remember it being surprisingly chilly in those towns in January and February as well.

[Retiring]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

It�s all a communist plot or so I have been told. When in doubt, call your Village sales rep or the Villages directly for answers to questions that are important to you.

That�s the problem. I called TV Sales directly, post the info here, and I�m told it�s wrong? However, to be fair, I may recall the info incorrectly. It�s been a month since I called and I posted without the benefit of my notes from that call.

When I actually walk into the sales office, I�ll get the straight scoop. If I hear something contrary to what I�ve been told before, or read on this forum, I�ll ask the rep to get confirmation.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Retiring

According to the TV sales rep I can delay construction 3 months, then 3 months to build, therefore 6 months from lot selection to closing at which time I need to be 55yo. I�m a year away from 55. I would be wasting everyone�s time lot shopping today. The lots available today may not be available 6 months from now.

But there is another hurdle I need to overcome before I look at TV seriously. I lived in FL from �79 to �89. I was there for college (Daytona Beach) and I was based in FL with the airline. I still remember the times I prayed for the day I could leave the excruciating humidity of central FL. When I got a job that took me out of State I celebrated and vowed I would never come back. Since then I�ve had many layovers in Orlando, Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa etc. so the FL summer is actually fresh in mind. Just this month I had 3 Orlando layovers.

The real hurdle for me?, humidity. And to a much lesser extent, sinkholes. Both have nothing to do with the fine people of TV or the amenities TV offers. This is strictly a geography issue.

I will visit TV this fall but I will not shop any lots. Assuming the sales agent is correct, I would be wasting my time, and theirs, shopping lots today. If I think TV is for me, I�ll return in 6 months at which time I can shop lots, since I�ll be 54 and a half at that time.

As an airline pilot I have access to a very sophisticated meteorology department. This summer I observed TV weather for a 2-week period and the stats were brutal. Heat index in the 120s. Since I�m based in Seattle my main residence is in WA but I have a home in Scottsdale too. I am not unfamiliar with high temperatures. However, for me, a dry 105 is far more comfortable than 85 with 100% humidity. Maybe comfortable is the wrong word. Let�s say a hot dry day is less uncomfortable than a humid warm day. Just speaking for myself.

The reason I�m attracted to TV is quite simple. I want to move only one more time. I�m very active (but not a golfer) and want to be in an active community. Also, I love the golf car aspect of TV. Don�t know why, but that just fascinates me.

That�s it in a nutshell.

We live and sleep in air conditioned homes, get into air conditioned cars, go to air conditioned restaurants, movies. rec centers, stores, come home and jump into swimming pools. We ride in open golf carts . What's the problem?

[Fraugoofy]

I think the humidity in Florida is a valid concern. It is unbearable mid day and into the evening during July and August. Many Villagers travel elsewhere during those months...

[tomwed]

If you can't afford to leave than you make the most of it. You golf very early or very late.
As Challanger wrote you stay in the AC or the pool.
I don't think it's unbearable if you don't have to work outside. Am I missing something?

[manaboutown]

Back in my Lakeland - Winterhaven days I got to know a couple of men pretty well. One owned orange groves and the other a real estate agency. They both went north during the long, hot, humid Florida summers to escape the unbearable humidity and heat.

[Skip]

Let's stay on topic.
We're talking about Age Restrictions, not Weather.

It's a Catch-22.
For new or resale, the seller can't ask you your age (race, ethnic background, religion, etc.).
It's against the law to ask.
The developer only has to inform you that "this is a 55 and over community where no children... etc."

You can't even keep those stats, as far as I know.
When we bought, I was told it was a "55 and over community".
No one asked how old we were.

And I know dozens who are way under 55 (still).

Skip

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Winterhaven is a bit south of TV. I remember it being surprisingly chilly in those towns in January and February as well.

Chilly? Really? I guess it depends what weather you're using for comparison.
Compared to Ontario, Canada, The Villages is balmy in January and February.
Some days are in the 60s, but other days we are able to golf and wear short sleeves. For us the weather is perfect!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Skip

Let's stay on topic.
We're talking about Age Restrictions, not Weather.

It's a Catch-22.
For new or resale, the seller can't ask you your age (race, ethnic background, religion, etc.).
It's against the law to ask.
The developer only has to inform you that "this is a 55 and over community where no children... etc."

You can't even keep those stats, as far as I know.
When we bought, I was told it was a "55 and over community".
No one asked how old we were.

And I know dozens who are way under 55 (still).

Skip

When I first bought I was asked if I was over the age of 55 and informed that I could have no one under the age of 19 living here permanently.

I don't know how a law could be made regarding age restricted communities and then the law forbidding a developer to ascertain or keep records of the ages of the residents. If the law requires that 80% of all homes in The Villages be occupied by at a least one person over the age of 55 then I'm sure that the law would require that some sort of records be kept in order to ensure that we are in compliance with the law.

Where did you get your information that they are not allowed to ask your age or keep records? While that might be the case outside of age restricted communities, it seems highly unlikely that it is the case in age restricted communities.

As far as resales go, every resident has to be registered for amenities and I.D. cards. I'm sure that The Villages has a record or almost every person living here including their age.

Don't forget, under the law, 80% or more of the residents could be under the age of 55 and still live here legally.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

When I first bought I was asked if I was over the age of 55 and informed that I could have no one under the age of 19 living here permanently.

I don't know how a law could be made regarding age restricted communities and then the law forbidding a developer to ascertain or keep records of the ages of the residents. If the law requires that 80% of all homes in The Villages be occupied by at a least one person over the age of 55 then I'm sure that the law would require that some sort of records be kept in order to ensure that we are in compliance with the law.

Where did you get your information that they are not allowed to ask your age or keep records? While that might be the case outside of age restricted communities, it seems highly unlikely that it is the case in age restricted communities.

As far as resales go, every resident has to be registered for amenities and I.D. cards. I'm sure that The Villages has a record or almost every person living here including their age.

Don't forget, under the law, 80% or more of the residents could be under the age of 55 and still live here legally.

Jim. You are right until the last sentence. It is 20%

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

When I first bought I was asked if I was over the age of 55 and informed that I could have no one under the age of 19 living here permanently.

I don't know how a law could be made regarding age restricted communities and then the law forbidding a developer to ascertain or keep records of the ages of the residents. If the law requires that 80% of all homes in The Villages be occupied by at a least one person over the age of 55 then I'm sure that the law would require that some sort of records be kept in order to ensure that we are in compliance with the law.

Where did you get your information that they are not allowed to ask your age or keep records? While that might be the case outside of age restricted communities, it seems highly unlikely that it is the case in age restricted communities.

As far as resales go, every resident has to be registered for amenities and I.D. cards. I'm sure that The Villages has a record or almost every person living here including their age.

Don't forget, under the law, 80% or more of the residents could be under the age of 55 and still live here legally.

That is why the Fed Reg allows for the collection of data by surveys or census figures to verify the statistics.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

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Jim. You are right until the last sentence. It is 20%

If only one person per household has to be 55 or older, conceivably couldn't 50% of the residents be under 55?