[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

There are tall people and short people. FACT!

Some folks have experience and an understanding of certain issues, some just blow smoke and change like the wind. FACT!

You must be talking about YOUR lack of knowledge/experience/smoke blowing. Within a few minutes I can list many reasons why lawmakers may want to make a bill on STR's.
1. They don't want to police them
2. Sanitation issues
3. Want to protect homeowner's rights
4. Curtail online sales
5. make certain the sales tax collected on the rentals actually are sent to Florida
6. Public nuisance
I can go on and on.

See? None of them have a thing to do with your supposed " thorough understanding" of this issue. You/We are only guessing the motives behind lawmakers decisions.

And please, don't post about my opinions stating I have no experience and I change like the wind. Must be nice to have a "through understanding " on someone you never met. Wish I had those magical powers that "some folks have!"

Clearwater FL has a ban on STR's in residential zones of the City. Could that possibly mean that some lawmakers want to and have banned STR's? Asking, because you have "experienced" everything! I couldn't have possibly lived in Clearwater, now could I? I'm just a dummy who doesn't know anything. You better google and check! Wouldn't want you to believe us know-nothings.
You may also want to check the new ordinance in Indian Rocks Beach. But, then again, DON'T TRUST SOMEONE WHO IS NOT AS SMART AS YOU!

Once you google the truth, would that be FACT? Just asking because sometimes a moron like me needs to have her vocabulary checked.

I stated twice on this thread that I am not fully committed either way. I see both sides! ( because I have lived it) You, however, want to force me to accept your smoke blowing as truth. This is a forum, not a court of law. Let's just agree to disagree.

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I don't know what you mean that you "looking into it exhaustively", but I disagree.

All owners are 3rd party beneficiaries of the Deed Restrictions. The Developer has the right, but not the obligation to enforce the Restrictions. Any 3rd party beneficiary should have the right to bring suit to enforce them (or at least in some circumstances, as the Deed Restrictions vary throughout TV).

If I'm not mistaken there's a fairly new FL law that prohibits counties/towns from adopting regulations that prohibit STR's, but I doubt that has any bearing on TV, as the owner's of the units, had prior knowledge that "Business Use" is prohibited in TV. Under Florida Law, short term rentals a defined as a "Business".

Personally, I'd love to see a few 100 TV residents get together and file a lawsuit.

Exactly. This is not a Developer problem on its face. It is a Community Standards problem once the neighborhood transfers over to T V. (However, grey area because deed restrictions are written using "developer" in the language. So as with most legal battles include everyone until they are eliminated. I digress).

Villas have different Deed Restrictions than the homes relative to businesses being run out of single family residences.

Damages... it all comes down to how a homeowner or homeowners are being damaged by Developer/Community Standards NOT enforcing deed restrictions.

Reporting, how many neighbors are reporting the abnb's being run out of homes? Ie: villas - short term rentals (6 months or less) without a business license as required by Florida law.

A business license means a business is being run out of a villa which by DEED businesses are NOT allowed in Villas.

Simple google of "villa deeds restrictions the villages fl" click on county then villa neighborhood.

VCDD Deed Compliance - Sumter County

Ie Rhett Villas: USE RESTRICTION Section 2: "No business of ANY KIND shall be conducted on any residence..."
Section 3 states no "noxious" (harmful or unpleasant) activities shall be carried on or in the homes - full circle to damages.

Silently the abuses continue.

[Ele201]

What I see happening is that The Villages is slowly evolving into a vacation destination. I have rented Airbnb’s to TV, and I have friends who do the same. In fact, a friend of mine just returned home after renting for a month in TV. She and her husband enjoyed the free live entertainment at the town squares. But they are also considering buying a villa, both have recently retired. In the meantime, they’re enjoying what TV has to offer. And apparently, they aren’t the only ones.

[fsusix]

How does one get young families to move out after 30 days? I called community standards and they said if they are renting there is a loop hole and they can’t do anything about it. Also they have a large trailer that has been there - I reported and other neighbors too- yet it is still there. Any advice?

Originally Posted by fsusix

How does one get young families to move out after 30 days? I called community standards and they said if they are renting there is a loop hole and they can’t do anything about it. Also they have a large trailer that has been there - I reported and other neighbors too- yet it is still there. Any advice?

T V is NOT upholding restrictions. 30 days is limit for children to reside in a home. Good question... residents imho need to pull together, from there... need representation legally and politically. Here in lies the problem...

I did read an article about a board member in District 5 working against abnb's. link:

https://www.**************.com/2023/...-the-villages/

[TEXJK]

The villages will be nothing but a Holiday Inn Express in a few years nothing here is enforced a free for all of day rentals and kids on golf carts get used to it

[crash]

Originally Posted by MsPCGenius

A passing thought....

Will investors be able to purchase in Middleton (family section), rent the home -- presumably long term -- to a family who can then send their children to The Villages Charter schools?

Wonder if deed restrictions will be placed on those homes...

You don’t have to live in The Villages to go to the charter school just work here. They have a pecking order of what jobs you have as to if your kids get in with working directly for the developer the highest. Working in any business that leases from the developer entitles you.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by fsusix

How does one get young families to move out after 30 days? I called community standards and they said if they are renting there is a loop hole and they can’t do anything about it. Also they have a large trailer that has been there - I reported and other neighbors too- yet it is still there. Any advice?

How about a little AI from ChatGPT?

[skippy05]

No matter the law, the rule, the contract banning STR is near impossible to enforce. Best focus your thoughts and energy on things you are able to control.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by fsusix

How does one get young families to move out after 30 days? I called community standards and they said if they are renting there is a loop hole and they can’t do anything about it. Also they have a large trailer that has been there - I reported and other neighbors too- yet it is still there. Any advice?

There is an 80/20 standard. 80% of homes must be occupied by someone over 55. Someone needs to find a way to see if this is truly happening. One entire street in my CYV neighborhood is rented out. If the actual number of homes in TV are not OCCUPIED by someone 55+ or older, we can get the Developer for false advertising. Any unoccupied rental can be counted as not part of the 80% criteria as well as those that are occupied with no one over 55 plus. Can we demand to see the actual number?

If we can get the Developer for false advertising. Rentals would seize. Unless the Developer wants to buy back all 55+ owners homes. Would we be able to break the numbers up by district? Find one district with less than 80% who are 55+ and we got what we need.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by skippy05

No matter the law, the rule, the contract banning STR is near impossible to enforce. Best focus your thoughts and energy on things you are able to control.

Not true at all! Some cities in Fl already have banned/restricted STRs. Check Clearwater and Indian Rocks Beach if you do not believe it.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by TEXJK

The villages will be nothing but a Holiday Inn Express in a few years nothing here is enforced a free for all of day rentals and kids on golf carts get used to it

Kids may be on the championship golf courses because of Middleton. You don't have to be a resident to golf on those. Plus, they will probably get the discounted fees.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Kids may be on the championship golf courses because of Middleton. You don't have to be a resident to golf on those. Plus, they will probably get the discounted fees.

But they have to 14 years old, or have a letter from a Villages PGA pro certifying they are able to follow the rules and etiquette of golf.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by fsusix

How does one get young families to move out after 30 days? I called community standards and they said if they are renting there is a loop hole and they can’t do anything about it. Also they have a large trailer that has been there - I reported and other neighbors too- yet it is still there. Any advice?

Young family:
- If all are over 19 years of age then the argument might be that they are renting and not permanently residing and the restrictions do not prohibit that
- If all are over 19 years of age then the Developer could invoke the "hardship" provision to avoid enforcing the restrictions
- If some are younger than 19 then there does not seem to be any exception in the restrictions
- The Developer has the right but not the duty to enforce these restrictions and in this case the Developer may be choosing to not enforce them

Trailer:
- Send an email to Community Standards asking about the progress on this complaint and Cc at least one of your CDD Commissioners to get them involved
- Go to the next meeting of your CDD and stand up at the microphone and ask about the complaint to get it on the official record

In both cases you, the homeowner, has the right to take your neighbor to court to enforce the restrictions. Talk to a lawyer to see whether you actually have a case and what the chances are that a ruling would be in your favor.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

There is an 80/20 standard. 80% of homes must be occupied by someone over 55. Someone needs to find a way to see if this is truly happening. One entire street in my CYV neighborhood is rented out. If the actual number of homes in TV are not OCCUPIED by someone 55+ or older, we can get the Developer for false advertising. Any unoccupied rental can be counted as not part of the 80% criteria as well as those that are occupied with no one over 55 plus. Can we demand to see the actual number?

If we can get the Developer for false advertising. Rentals would seize. Unless the Developer wants to buy back all 55+ owners homes.

The highlighted statement is completely wrong.

(i) at least 80 percent of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person who is 55 years of age or older

Unoccupied homes would not be part of the 80/20 count.

It is unclear what "occupied" means in regards to a rental. Does it mean occupied on the day someone knocked on the door to take the count? Does it mean occupied for at least a week? If the count is performed by looking at the age on the Resident IDs that have been issued for a home then it would depend on when the list of IDs was created.