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Old 03-24-2020, 11:33 AM
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This is the site I've been using to monitor the number of cases....it was 200,000 on Thursday, it just topped 400,000 today. That's doubling in 5 days.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 401,013 Cases and 17,480 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
But that doesn't mean there are 200,000 new cases, due to the increased testing some of that increase was expected, ie: they were already cases
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Old 03-24-2020, 11:42 AM
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But that doesn't mean there are 200,000 new cases, due to the increased testing some of that increase was expected, ie: they were already cases

Don't be so pedantic.


It's simply a valid comparison of...apples to apples.
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Old 03-24-2020, 11:52 AM
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Don't be so pedantic.


It's simply a valid comparison of...apples to apples.
Sorry, but it's hardly a comparison of apples to apples. It's more like doing an apple count, and the following week realizing you didn't count an entire warehouse full of apples, and then stating the apple harvest has doubled in a week.
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Pence says "FDA approving 'off label' use for Chloroquine, no barrier to access'".

Not sure what this means in practice.

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Old 03-24-2020, 12:14 PM
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Pence says "FDA approving 'off label' use for Chloroquine, no barrier to access'.

Not sure what this means in practice.
Had a similar reaction ... I think he means a doctor can prescribe it if he /she thinks it might work for a covid patient who’s running out of options
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As example....


"Amid the pandemic of COVID-19 for which there is currently no treatment, doctors have urged the public not to self medicate after an Arizona man died and his wife was put in critical care. The pair, both in their 60s, took chloroquine phosphate, an additive used to clean fish tanks."


Health Officials Warn Against Self-Medicating With Chloroquine for Coronavirus After Man Dies From Taking Fish Tank Cleaner

Because some cannot keep quiet, does not mean you need believe them.

They heard for weeks "this drug" could help....heard that part but ignored the constant warning from others on the same stage.
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Pence says "FDA approving 'off label' use for Chloroquine, no barrier to access'".

Not sure what this means in practice.
What it means in practice, is that people will be demanding (and hording) a drug that has no *proven* efficacy in treating COVID-19, has some potentially lethal side effects when used off-label, and will prevent people who actually need it for their already-existing illnesses (such as lupus) from getting access to it due to reduced availability.
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Pence says "FDA approving 'off label' use for Chloroquine, no barrier to access'".

Not sure what this means in practice.
Not sure, but I thought a doctor could prescribe a drug for "off label" use without FDA approval. That is why it is called "off label" use.
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:58 PM
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What it means in practice, is that people will be demanding (and hording) a drug that has no *proven* efficacy in treating COVID-19, has some potentially lethal side effects when used off-label, and will prevent people who actually need it for their already-existing illnesses (such as lupus) from getting access to it due to reduced availability.
You’re probably right ... desperate people do desperate things. However someone ingesting a fish tank cleaner is ... well, panicked
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Couldn't agree with you more.

It’s hard for me to believe that people in general are so scared.

We’ve all weathered much worse at our age and even though we know better we let the media control our thoughts and actions.

To me it’s sad and quite stupid.


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That thinks this mass hysteria is ridiculous? People panicking over TP. People buying guns and ammo.

Im shocked at TV...at our age we have gone thru worse. So many veterans here that went thru worse.

We have no kids here to protect and feed. But the entitled worry warts have cleaned out the stores.

Wait for two years and the news will have articles on the Year the World Went Nuts

Sorry...not buying it...scientists and politicians just love to control.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:23 PM
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Couldn't agree with you more.

It’s hard for me to believe that people in general are so scared.

We’ve all weathered much worse at our age and even though we know better we let the media control our thoughts and actions.

To me it’s sad and quite stupid.
Agree! And by the way Dollar Tree on 466a has toilet paper. Four small rolls for a dollar!
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This is the site I've been using to monitor the number of cases....it was 200,000 on Thursday, it just topped 400,000 today. That's doubling in 5 days.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 401,013 Cases and 17,480 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
And why is it doubling?? Certainly twice the number did not just come down with it. This is all about testing. The more testing, the more positives, WHO AREADY HAVE IT, will be found. Hyping the raw number does no one a service.
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And why is it doubling?? Certainly twice the number did not just come down with it. This is all about testing. The more testing, the more positives, WHO AREADY HAVE IT, will be found. Hyping the raw number does no one a service.
I agree. If they are going to report the number of positive tests, they should also report the number of negative tests. Otherwise the data is meaningless.
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What it means in practice, is that people will be demanding (and hording) a drug that has no *proven* efficacy in treating COVID-19, has some potentially lethal side effects when used off-label, and will prevent people who actually need it for their already-existing illnesses (such as lupus) from getting access to it due to reduced availability.
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The Ohio Board of Pharmacy has instituted rules requiring a physician to document that the patient has tested positive.

Cincinnati.com: Ohio pharmacy board restricts prescriptions for experimental coronavirus treatment drugs

Coronavirus: Ohio pharmacy restricts prescriptions for experimental drugs
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