[retiredguy123]

Some people think that, if they just take a photo of their ID card and put it on their phone, it is as secure as the physical card. WRONG! You can photoshop and substitute any person's photo for the actual resident's photo, and The Villages employee has no way to verify that the person holding the phone is the actual resident.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

100%
They won't even accept a scannable photo of Villages ID. Ridiculous.

Will the police accept a scannable photo of your drivers’ license? Are they technologically backwards too? Just asking. It would make it easier on those of us who live with our phones and smart watches like I do - but it would make it easier to falsify as well. And that idea I don’t like.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Will the police accept a scannable photo of your drivers’ license? Are they technologically backwards too? Just asking. It would make it easier on those of us who live with our phones and smart watches like I do - but it would make it easier to be hacked as well. And that I don’t like.

The police will not accept a photo of your drivers license, unless it is a digital copy made by the state for that purpose.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by rhood

I can use my phone’s and watch’s capabilities to enter Costco, Sam’s, pay for merchandise at stores and restaurants, etc
There is no reason a similar secure system couldn’t be used to access amenities, gates, pools, rec centers, etc.
I am against anything that would require me to carry another card or device to use facilities.
Florida drivers license will soon be digital.
The less I have to carry, the better. It all could be done digitally.

I don’t like carrying phone.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Will the police accept a scannable photo of your drivers’ license? Are they technologically backwards too? Just asking. It would make it easier on those of us who live with our phones and smart watches like I do - but it would make it easier to falsify as well. And that idea I don’t like.

Only when you have to provide information, LEO can use anything they want.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Will the police accept a scannable photo of your drivers’ license? Are they technologically backwards too? Just asking. It would make it easier on those of us who live with our phones and smart watches like I do - but it would make it easier to falsify as well. And that idea I don’t like.

Isn't FL starting to use digital driver's licenses soon? Is THAT secure? (hint: YES)

[CarlR33]

Originally Posted by jimhoward

The villages is backwards technologically. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Catering to people who still read the Sunny paper and it’s not even digital. The Villages still has the non digital ID card I have to carry, LOL. Let’s digitize that first?

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Good Lord. Yes, let's OPT OUT of amenities bc I don't like one aspect of the entire program. Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is? Also, just bc we agrees to certain policies at purchase, does not mean they can NEVER be updated with changes in technology. If you can put you credit card into Apple Pay and use your phone to pay at the checkout, I'm sure they could do something similar and SECURE with the Villages ID bc we certainly don't want your sister using the facilities.

Yes, The Villages could change the rules. But the current rule requires a resident to show their actual, plastic ID card. But some people will argue with a rec center employee who won't accept a copy of the ID card on their phone. This is definitely not as secure as the actual plastic card, and it does NOT comply with the rule. Either get the rule changed or follow the rule. Don't make a copy of your card and expect the rec center employees to honor it.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Isn't FL starting to use digital driver's licenses soon? Is THAT secure? (hint: YES)

Not so much. See post #16. Even when it was active it was valid as an ID at some locations but not as a driver's license.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Yes, The Villages could change the rules. But the current rule requires a resident to show their actual, plastic ID card. But some people will argue with a rec center employee who won't accept a copy of the ID card on their phone. This is definitely not as secure as the actual plastic card, and it does NOT comply with the rule. Either get the rule changed or follow the rule. Don't make a copy of your card and expect the rec center employees to honor it.

Back in 2020 the Villages announced they would soon have a digital version of the Villager ID card. Got tired of holding my breath a few years ago.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Isn't FL starting to use digital driver's licenses soon? Is THAT secure? (hint: YES)

No, they're not. They had it implemented in 2024 but it flopped and was scrapped. They claimed it'd be improved and made available again in early 2025, but that ship has sailed and there's been no mention or movement on it since.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

They have been for decades. It's really sad how they can spend so much on unnecessary fluff to sell houses, but their IT dept is severely lacking. But they didn't get rich by making things easier for people who already bought!

I'm sure everyone knows that the Developer owns the IT company, that runs everything in The Villages, including the District.

I haven't looked at the budget lately, but I believe the District pays them well over $1,000,000/year. There's no incentive for the Developer's IT company to upgrade anything ... as long as the District keeps paying them.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

You are the exception. No one under 70 would go anywhere without their phone. In my case, it's required if I want to start my car.

Well, then I guess I’m a 65 year old no one. And if a phone was required to start a car, that would be a non-starter for me. Screw that, if I can’t put a key in the ignition then I wouldn’t own it.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Well, then I guess I’m a 65 year old no one. And if a phone was required to start a car, that would be a non-starter for me. Screw that, if I can’t put a key in the ignition then I wouldn’t own it.

Good luck with that

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Well, then I guess I’m a 65 year old no one. And if a phone was required to start a car, that would be a non-starter for me. Screw that, if I can’t put a key in the ignition then I wouldn’t own it.

manual process work a very high percentage of the time. .
high tech processes have several points of failure, security being number 2 issue behind electricity as the number 1 issue. . universal standardization and then universal adoption are close behind. .

I personally prefer the manual processes with the super high up time and super low points of failure. .

high tech fobs. . easy to steal your car without the key and while you have your key inside your house. . a point of failure. .

smart phone o/s upgrades cause many app rewrites. . so one update might make you unable to open or start your car. . very low probability, but never zero. .

so many points of failure in the high tech world. . .