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I find it much easier to carry my Villages ID than my phone. Of course, I wish someone would always check my ID when using an Ammenity, but that’s a different issue.
I agree. I only rarely take my phone anywhere. I don’t like being controlled by technology. But I always have my wallet. How about an embedded microchip for ID, or a retinal scan?
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The family should pay for it to upgrade things , with the $12M/month they bring in with amenity fees…..
Please attend the Resident Academy to learn how your local government works and where your fees go.

"The family" receives almost $0 in amenity fees and anything they do receive goes towards providing and maintaining the amenities in the newest areas.
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I took a picture of my ID and show it to the attendant on my iPhone. Then the attendant says “I don’t think it’ll scan.” I say “can we try.” They say “ok.” It scans beautifully every time. I do carry my ID just in case it doesn’t work.
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You are talking about an outfit that markets and advertises through their own newspaper. They are decades behind in technology. No social media platforms and ancient cards for gates are prime examples of the antiquated company.
Maybe because such procedures by and large reflect the techi-ness of the majority of The Villages? We are a "retirement community" after all, and it is a safe bet that 90% of our grandkids know far more about such things than we grandparents do.

Old habits die hard.
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Well, then I guess I’m a 65 year old no one. And if a phone was required to start a car, that would be a non-starter for me. Screw that, if I can’t put a key in the ignition then I wouldn’t own it.
Funny, if I have to put a key in the ignition to start a car, then I wouldn't own it.
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They won't even accept a scannable photo of Villages ID. Ridiculous.
That's probably because it's way too easy to fake. Almost anyone with a little tech savvy can do it in about 15 minutes with basic photo editing software. And if the barcode is scannable, then all someone needs is a card and they can make as many fake IDs as they want. All they have to do is replace the photo.

Usually when it comes to photo IDs or barcodes, it involves an application that stores your photo and validates who you are, typically using some form of two factor authentication.

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Yeah, I hear you but TV is so far behind the technology curve this will never happen.

For example, I tried to signup for the Eastport tour using the link in an email that the developer sent me. Didn’t work. I called them and was told that that link only worked from a computer, not a phone. smh.

On the other hand, Georgia, iirc, just passed a law to implement digital drivers licenses. The police officers will be carrying the matching readers sometime in 2027. Progress!
...and if a driver from Georgia drives down to Florida, and there's a fender-bender on the road and the cop asks for his drivers license, oh well?
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I took a picture of my ID and show it to the attendant on my iPhone. Then the attendant says “I don’t think it’ll scan.” I say “can we try.” They say “ok.” It scans beautifully every time. I do carry my ID just in case it doesn’t work.
In the time it takes you to insist on being the exception to the rule, you could've just taken out the ID you carry just in case.
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That's probably because it's way too easy to fake. Almost anyone with a little tech savvy can do it in about 15 minutes with basic photo editing software. And if the barcode is scannable, then all someone needs is a card and they can make as many fake IDs as they want. All they have to do is replace the photo.

Usually when it comes to photo IDs or barcodes, it involves an application that stores your photo and validates who you are, typically using some form of two factor authentication in.
There is 2 factor auth today. You present the card, they scan it and then confirm that you are the person whose picture was taken initially to create the Resident ID. Basic phot editing won't help with their verification step.
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In the time it takes you to insist on being the exception to the rule, you could've just taken out the ID you carry just in case.
That's just an investment in training. Next time, she shows the same person her digital version, they scan it and she's on her way.
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There is 2 factor auth today. You present the card, they scan it and then confirm that you are the person whose picture was taken initially to create the Resident ID. Basic phot editing won't help with their verification step.
So you're saying when the staff scan your card, it brings up a picture of the card on their device? I wasn't aware of that, but I never really paid attention when they scanned my card.
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That's just an investment in training. Next time, she shows the same person her digital version, they scan it and she's on her way.
Or, it brings up the need to reinforce training - staff is not supposed to accept photos of IDs.

Sure, in this case, after just a little bit of delay for the discussion, scanning an image worked. The next person to try it will have a poor picture of the barcode or a scratch on their phone screen or a bad glare or any of a number of things that will prevent the scan from working. While the attendant is attempting to scan the image off the screen others will be waiting to be let in. Better to just carry the ID as you are supposed to when you want to use the amenities.
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There is 2 factor auth today. You present the card, they scan it and then confirm that you are the person whose picture was taken initially to create the Resident ID. Basic phot editing won't help with their verification step.
LOL!

So entering every event will require 2FA? that's a real line length generator and time wasting! Enough with the financial security requirements for a village event!

People can't think through basic operational implications . . .

Cards will do the trick to keep the costs down. . you bring a wallet? carry a card. .
you bring a phone, carry a card with it. .
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LOL!

So entering every event will require 2FA? that's a real line length generator and time wasting! Enough with the financial security requirements for a village event!

People can't think through basic operational implications . . .

Cards will do the trick to keep the costs down. . you bring a wallet? carry a card. .
you bring a phone, carry a card with it. .
No, I believe they are pointing out that 2FA is currently being used whether the Villager notices it or not.

The attendant *might* look at the picture on your ID. The attendant *does* look at the picture on their device that appears just after the little "yay." That's the 2FA - the physical card and the match between the record and the individual.

I haven't been around to see what happens if the picture doesn't match the individual who presented the card.
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You are talking about an outfit that markets and advertises through their own newspaper. They are decades behind in technology. No social media platforms and ancient cards for gates are prime examples of the antiquated company.
The Villages has a Facebook page and YouTube acct, both very active. They very likely also have Instagram, but I don’t do IG so am not sure.
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