[Steve]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Been here for many years. The Kool-aid drank around here comes in a bottle titled self-entitlement. The arguments I've seen over parking spaces, golf balls, chairs in the squares, exercise equipment, etc. are so common that when I read this I was numb to the details. And, nowadays, I can't seem to have a restaurant meal without some table arguing. Usually the mine is better than yours scenario. Who cares what you own? Welcome to the Villages!

Your "golf ball" comment struck me thanks to a situation a few years ago. I was playing in one of the local Villages tournaments and on the practice green two guys were almost coming to blows over a golf ball. Each guy said it was his. It got to the point where I walked over, reached into my pocket and gave each guy a Titleist, said "It's only a golf ball", picked up the ball in question and walked away. That ended the dispute.

[GATORBILL66]

Originally Posted by I'm Popeye!

OrangeBlossomLady put us in the "Good People" category...

It was in the Village News.

[Jerry F2]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Villager kills another Villager…never hapens in Americas fFriendliest place


Except i read the other forbidden other online news source.

Not a word here about a 75 year old punching n 85 year old in the jaw at Glenview CC becuse he thought he hit his lexus.

Poor 85 yer old is dead from a brain bleed.

You wont find these stories in the Sun. No one talks about the violence here.

Lets all drink the kool aid

Start watching SKIP SMITH's weekly "The Villages News Reports" on Utube.
You will get updates on "incidents" in The Villages...it is a must see.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Steve

Your "golf ball" comment struck me thanks to a situation a few years ago. I was playing in one of the local Villages tournaments and on the practice green two guys were almost coming to blows over a golf ball. Each guy said it was his. It got to the point where I walked over, reached into my pocket and gave each guy a Titleist, said "It's only a golf ball", picked up the ball in question and walked away. That ended the dispute.

Great story.

[Taltarzac725]

Check the crime statistics between where you came from and the Villages?

Probably will be a very sharp contrast. Former places I have lived:

I have heard that Reno, NV has a big crime problem as do parts of Minneapolis, MN; the Santa Rosa, CA area; Scottsdale, AZ; Denver, CO; Itasca, IL; Palm Harbor FL; Menomonee Falls, WI, and other places.

Probably not Provo, Utah but then who knows?

I feel very safe most of the time in the Villages, FL.

Bad drivers is my biggest worry.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by GATORBILL66

I don't understand how the 75 year old is out on bond. He should never see the light of day again!

Probably not a flight risk---the bond is just an attempt to guarantee appearance in court. While you (and others, maybe even myself) have already convicted him and sentenced him to life imprisonment, he is innocent until proven guilty and gets to have his day in court. Also, mens rea is probably attached, and also since he was reported as drunk, the DA may only go for what he can prove---involuntary manslaughter.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by NoMo50

I doubt it. Best case scenario, if it went down the way it was reported, is he gets convicted of involuntary manslaughter. He'll do time.

I hope he does time, that whole story is appalling. Remember the young guy who beat a guy to death in Spanish Springs..... he didn't do time, he got six months probation.

[Boomer]

Just found and read the two parts to the story in villageshyphennews.com. (If you don’t know the site, decipher that. TOTV does not allow it to be linked or shown here.)

Looks like he hit his victim (who had done nothing) and then had to be tracked down through camera footage.

According to **************.com, Moore, when arrested, was quoted as saying about his victim that he “was older and appeared to be frail but (he) did not think he was 87 years old.” …….

What a despicable thing to say — and sure looks to me like before throwing his killer punch, he had calculated that he would not be taking any risk for his own safety.

One innocent man killed and many other lives ruined because of this 75 year old man who was so stoked up by stupid, uncontrollable anger.

Boomer

I see the track of this thread is turning to indignation that this horror sullies the reputation of TV. That is not the issue in this. This issue is an out of control 75 year old has killed an innocent man. That could happen anywhere in this country now so full of anger.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Boomer

.......
I see the track of this thread is turning to indignation that this horror sullies the reputation of TV. That is not the issue in this. This issue is an out of control 75 year old has killed an innocent man. That could happen anywhere in this country now so full of anger.

I'll go one step further-----it happens MORE often anywhere else in the country.

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by Mikee1

Not Sure HALAL is going to help by making it all permissible?

Halal

Wikipedia
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia › wiki › Halal
halal from en.wikipedia.org
Halal is an Arabic word that translates to 'permissible' in English. In the Quran, the term halal is contrasted with the term haram ('forbidden').

Dont think you get my tag line. Do a search here on halal and u will find an old post of mine…it will explain the tag line…..which has nothing to do with this topic

[Shelly]

Originally Posted by Ele201

You’re right, criminals buy homes and move, as well as go on vacation. Agree with your list of problematic people, except wouldn’t include “unwed mothers” or “uneducated people.” Nothing wrong with single mothers and not everyone has a college degree, no shame in either!

Agree. With the divorce rate being at 50% or higher there are millions of single mothers and single fathers and not sure why "unwed mothers" is even mentioned in reply to an article about a man killing another man in a fit of rage over a car. Also agree that having or not having a college degree (I have one but my husband does not) does not affect one's integrity.

[Djean1981]

You are stereotyping almost 150k people. With any large group, there will be people of all types. People don't change because they move here or elsewhere.. Hopefully, the killer will be jailed forever.

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

So...what WERE the expectations when moving here? That the folks moving here were going to leave their baggage behind? That all of a sudden irascible old people were going to turn into kindly old grandmotherly and grandfatherly types? That rocking chairs, card games in the lanai and doily-knitting were going to predominate?

It doesn't work that way. People are who they were before moving here, and that is pretty much a cross-section of America. More money, maybe, but that's not necessarily a positive when discussing personality types. But there is another factor that wasn't seen, at least to this extent and in this concentration, before people moved here, and that is summed up in the saying "as people age, they become more like themselves". So as age advances the philanthropist is apt to want to contribute even more. The quick-to-anger types are apt to develop a hair trigger. The life-of-the-party type is apt to become even more outgoing. The lounge-lizard types are apt to become even more of a pain. The loner is apt to become even more withdrawn. And so on. And unfortunately, the bullies among us may give in to their urges even more so than before.

The reason is simple. As people age, mental processes deteriorate, and as they deteriorate we gradually lose control of our emotions and how we act upon them. Bottom line: the real person that we've kept hidden more or less successfully all our lives is progressively more apt to start showing through, and not always with good results. Not all of us, or even most of us, and not necessarily in a bad way. But it DOES happen, and when you couple that with things like booze, a rocky home life, chronic pain, as well as other factors--well, sometimes the result is going to be like happened in the case being discussed here. Put simply, people have less emotional control, at times with unfortunate and even deadly results.

Post #17 mentions two murder-suicides here since 2015 (in a town that at this time has a population of 150,000, more or less). I come from a town of 25,000 and I can recall more such incidents there in roughly the same time-period--plus other crimes, against persons and property, that rarely if ever happen here. I carried a pistol there virtually every time I went out the door. Here? Not even once--though I did get my permit upon moving here. Just haven't felt the need, and this latest incident didn't change that. The Villages is by far the safest place I've lived since leaving home at age 18.

If there is one gripe I have about TV (maybe Florida in general--I'm not familiar with other settings) it is the lack of services designed to assist people with the emotional problems attendant upon advancing age. They just don't seem to exist, at least not to the extent that they're obviously needed. Maybe to develop and advertise them would go against the "healthy active senior lifestyle" thing, but to NOT develop them, and then have to deal with stuff like this, is to my mind far worse.

"as people age, they become more like themselves"

Tried a little googling to learn more about that. The name Bernice L. Neugarten kept popping up and the year 1977, but the actual article doesn't seem to be particularly "accessible". Even looks like she might have been quoting it from another. Any insights? TIA

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Right! Why some people think this is the land of sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows amazes me too! It's like they never were around grumpy/hostile elderly people before moving here.
News Flash! No one is checking anyone's background information before letting them purchase a home. I think some of those overly cheerful YouTubers who try to sell "the Villages is perfect" scenario along with the well-trained Villages sales staff are to blame. Where have you ever been that is "perfect"?

I would prefer to be neighbors with someone who can not understand how people our age and should know better, can resort to violence. I am astonished myself. Because we are astonished at peoples behaviour does not mean we are naive.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by mntlblok

"as people age, they become more like themselves"

Tried a little googling to learn more about that. The name Bernice L. Neugarten kept popping up and the year 1977, but the actual article doesn't seem to be particularly "accessible". Even looks like she might have been quoting it from another. Any insights? TIA

Not so much on the originator of the concept. It was often referenced by a Ph.D. psychologist who our agency used at times as a consultant and for client assessments.