[Whitley]

Originally Posted by La lamy

"Grumpy old..." syndrome is a real thing. Like everything else that gets depleted as we age, serotonin (the feel good hormone) gets depleted too. Combined with chronic pain, lack of sleep, loss of spouse, it can get harder and harder to maintain a level, happy head space. It's easy to judge angry older people, but I like to imagine why they are that way. I'm sure it's hard living for them. I'll try my best not to cause unnecessary grump fest!

They give me a pill for everything else, isn't there one for serotonin?

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Probably not a flight risk---the bond is just an attempt to guarantee appearance in court. While you (and others, maybe even myself) have already convicted him and sentenced him to life imprisonment, he is innocent until proven guilty and gets to have his day in court. Also, mens rea is probably attached, and also since he was reported as drunk, the DA may only go for what he can prove---involuntary manslaughter.

Good points. At this point we know more or less just what a news source wants us to know, and as a rule (in my experience anyway), such reporting tends more to arouse ire than to satisfy one's curiosity about what really happened.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I find it more astonishing that you (or anyone else) would be astonished. This is a community of 150,000 transplants from other places, most of whom had never met each other before moving in. Of course there will be criminals, violent people, drunks, drug addicts, unwed mothers, uneducated people, bigots, racists, sex offenders, antisemites.

There are more good people than there are bad, in my opinion. But no one should be astonished to learn that the bad exist.

Maybe "Critical Thinking" is the first thing to go.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Ele201

You’re right, criminals buy homes and move, as well as go on vacation. Agree with your list of problematic people, except wouldn’t include “unwed mothers” or “uneducated people.” Nothing wrong with single mothers and not everyone has a college degree, no shame in either!

Yeah I thought of that, but those are two demographics that "some people" complain about as offensive to their "family values."

I'm a good example of why it doesn't matter: I'm educated. College degree, multiple certifications in a myriad of subjects from bartending to aromatherapy to computer coding. What did I do with all my education? I mostly did retail, customer service and cashiering. Most of it was non-management. Remember, narrow-minded folks: the person you're criticizing for being stupid at the check-out counter, because they needed to check with their manager to approve an unusual return - might be more educated than you are. They WILL laugh at you after you've left the store.

[rpalumberi]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I find it more astonishing that you (or anyone else) would be astonished. This is a community of 150,000 transplants from other places, most of whom had never met each other before moving in. Of course there will be criminals, violent people, drunks, drug addicts, unwed mothers, uneducated people, bigots, racists, sex offenders, antisemites.

There are more good people than there are bad, in my opinion. But no one should be astonished to learn that the bad exist.

We agree, especially the part about "150,000 transplants from other places". We're sorry to hear that things got out of control and someone was hurt and died. Not that it helps so much but condolences to the family.

[BAT777]

The more it grows here the worst it is getting-doctors, hospitals, no parking at the squares, traffic, and I could go on and on! This is all about how much more money can be made and I find this to be sad. As much as we enjoy the warmer weather in just 6 years of living here we are rethinking our move.

I can't even find an experienced cardiologist for my pet! We have to travel to Gainesville. We use to live in a town with over 150,00 and we had 4 veterinarians that were experienced in echos and medicine needed for heart disease..
Prayers for the elderly man that recently died at Glenview from the fall :{

[LuvNH]

Earlier I had ignored this thread because I figured it was just another "kool aid" post. When I read it I was really quite horrified to think that the aggressor had punched the older man several times before realizing it was not even his car the older man had hit and then just walked away, not even offering help. One can assume the aggressor had been drinking which would not help the situation, but he needs to do time.

I believe the relatives of the deceased person could take a civil suit and put this guy away for a good long time.

This is information in Florida law. "Punishment for Battery on an Elderly Person

This is a first-degree felony that is punishable up to 30 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. There is a mandatory 3 year prison term. The judge will order that restitution will be paid and the defendant must do 500 hours of community service." So who knows, maybe he will pay dearly for his stupidity.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by BAT777

The more it grows here the worst it is getting-doctors, hospitals, no parking at the squares, traffic, and I could go on and on! This is all about how much more money can be made and I find this to be sad. As much as we enjoy the warmer weather in just 6 years of living here we are rethinking our move.

I can't even find an experienced cardiologist for my pet! We have to travel to Gainesville. We use to live in a town with over 150,00 and we had 4 veterinarians that were experienced in echos and medicine needed for heart disease..
Prayers for the elderly man that recently died at Glenview from the fall :{

You didn't look very hard if you couldn't find an experienced cardiologist for your pet or a vet that has echocardiogram services. I just did a google search. VCA at Buffalo Ridge, right here in The Villages, offers cardiology and echo services.

There's also Central Florida Veterinary Cardiology in Eustis. That's much closer than Gainesville.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Tobys Dad

We have been here over 20 years. I have never witnessed an argument, fight or anything even close to a fight. Only arguments have been with umpires at softball. We are a "city" of nearly 150,000. Stuff happens. Crime and incident issues extremely low compared to the rest of America .

I am looking to move. What part of the villages do you live in? I live near a square and things around here are not as peaceful as your area sounds. I am looking for a quieter place

[dougawhite]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Some people think this is the land of sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows

Oh, I thought it was Unicorns, Butterflies, and Rainbows! My bad...

[cjrjck]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Villager kills another Villager…never hapens in Americas fFriendliest place


Except i read the other forbidden other online news source.

Not a word here about a 75 year old punching n 85 year old in the jaw at Glenview CC becuse he thought he hit his lexus.

Poor 85 yer old is dead from a brain bleed.

You wont find these stories in the Sun. No one talks about the violence here.

Lets all drink the kool aid

There are about 140,000 people living in TV, give or take, during peak residency. It is by far the least violent place I have lived, but it is not immune from violence.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by LuvNH

I believe the relatives of the deceased person could take a civil suit and put this guy away for a good long time.

This is information in Florida law. "Punishment for Battery on an Elderly Person

This is a first-degree felony that is punishable up to 30 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. There is a mandatory 3 year prison term. The judge will order that restitution will be paid and the defendant must do 500 hours of community service." So who knows, maybe he will pay dearly for his stupidity.

I hope there are former lawyers on here that can corroborate, but I believe a civil suit can only result in a cash settlement, not jail time which would require conviction in a criminal case. Refer to the OJ Simpson trials for a similar situation.

As far as what will or will not result in prison, it seems that these days there is underenforcement of existing laws and underpenalization of convicted offenders. YMMV

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by NoMo50

So, the truth is, you know how to get your "other" news here in TV. The incident mentioned, while tragic, is not surprising. Further, it is certainly not common.

The fact the story did not appear in the Sun is also not surprising. The publisher of the Sun is free (free press) to print or not print that story. The "other" paper relishes in offering up stories about anything negative about TV, especially crime. Most of the crime stories they run wouldn't even get a passing glance in a newspaper in (pick any big city). Every newspaper has editorial/publisher bias.

The incident does not change my perception of safety in The Villages one little bit. Of all the places I have lived, TV is, by far, the safest and most crime free.

Very true. Everyone knows that the Daily Sunshine Pumper is not going to publish bad things. But on the other hand, the owner of the other site is a disgruntled former employee of the Daily Sunshine Pumper and is obviously hellbent on making the villages look bad. So, you have both extremes feeding you news.
Sadly, most of the sensationalistic crimes headlined on the other site aren't even in The Villages.

[broiler]

Originally Posted by djplong

I may not agree with the predominant politics around here but I do believe in the truth (especially when backed up with reliable statistics).

1) The Villages, crime wise, is WAY safer than the national average on all kinds of crime.

2) There are always bad apples in every barrel.

3) Ask any public-facing employee (anything from a clerk to a fast food cashier) who the most troublesome, most entitled, hardest to please people and they'll tell you that it's OUR generation (I'm 60). Too many of us were raised spoiled by The Greatest Generation (because they didn't want us reliving their horrors) and, while that's an easy accusation to make, it DOES tend to come true too often. Most of us aren't like that - but ask them who stands out in their minds and it's usually some entitled old person.

So I have no trouble in believing that there are a lot of low-level spats going on. Heck, seeing the arguments in the nursing home I worked at as a teenager right up to the one my mom was in starting last year - the evidence is there.

I agree with you completely but would like to share another view of your point #3.. yes, many in my generation may have been spoiled. But, most of the people I know were raised by very hard-working parents who instilled a strong work ethic in their children. Unfortunately, that same work ethic is missing from the younger, more spoiled generation.

I would also like to offer that some of the residents in TV are dealing with the frustrations of the health and mental issues that come with the "new normal" of aging. Frustration is often displayed as anger.

Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with verbal or physical abuse. ..but, I would ask that we all be a bit more hesitant to use the word "entitled" until you have walked a mile in someone's shoes.

[margaretmattson]

I just finished reading another article about this situation. The man who hit the car got out and was offering his insurance card. Instead of accepting, the other man threw several punches at his face. He only stopped when he realized the car hit was not his. Then he drives away leaving the injured man who shows signs of collapsing. The police had to track down the man who delivered the punches, then was able to arrest him. The man's excuse? The gentleman he murdered didn't look like an 87 year old man. He is out on a $30,000 bond.

I showed the article to my family. A good reminder to them that objects are not worth fighting over. They can easily be fixed or replaced. Worship, rage, and a feeling of prestige with "precious objects" is a real thing! Objects can and never will bring you anything but the bill you have to pay for them. Perhaps this was the reason for his rage. He bought something he couldn't afford.