[chuckinca]

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

1) I've never spoken to anyone in your world

2) "all snowbirds are not bad, BUT by and large a large portion of them are." This is the 21st century. As a nation and a world we have all seen the ugliness and insanity of racial, religious, ethnic and 'othe'r group prejudice. If you were in the service, you saw it everywhere you were. You, sir have not learned anything from that. You should be ashamed of your irrational negative categorizing of thousands of people you've never met. Were you to leave TV forever, it would be a better place.

Army Guy you are WaY OfF BaSe!!

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[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

1) I've never spoken to anyone in your world

2) "all snowbirds are not bad, BUT by and large a large portion of them are." This is the 21st century. As a nation and a world we have all seen the ugliness and insanity of racial, religious, ethnic and 'othe'r group prejudice. If you were in the service, you saw it everywhere you were. You, sir have not learned anything from that. You should be ashamed of your irrational negative categorizing of thousands of people you've never met. Were you to leave TV forever, it would be a better place.

+1

Army guy you need an attitude adjustment

[bluedog103]

Originally Posted by BobKat1

If a snowbird becomes a full time resident, do they automatically go from bad to good??

Army Guy used to be a snowbird. I guess he was a member of the tiny minority of good ones.
I honestly have never heard a snowbird complain about any expenses of living in The Villages. We knew the costs up front and accepted them. It's just part of having two homes. We'll be heading north soon leaving utopia to the fulltimers. We pay taxes and fees at our northern homes and accept that as well. It goes with the territory.
Interesting point is that I have heard locals complain about TV residents in general without making any distinction based on time spent in TV. Most anywhere you go there's a feeling of ill will for the interlopers. Up north we have the dreaded weekend people. Those who make money off them tolerate them, the rest of us could definitely live without them.
If someone has a problem with the way clubs and recreation activities perhaps that should be addressed with the proper authorities. Snowbirds have nothing to do with the lack of activities when we are away.

[Skybo]

Originally Posted by BobKat1

If a snowbird becomes a full time resident, do they automatically go from bad to good??

No...they just start complaining about snowbirds.

As I’ve said before...in my short time here, the snowbirds, renters and visitors have been among the happiest and friendliest people I’ve met. The rude people I’ve encountered...I have no idea if they are full-timers or part-timers. Probably a combination of both. I think the “crowded season” brings out the worst in all people.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by BobKat1

If a snowbird becomes a full time resident, do they automatically go from bad to good??

Now that's funny!

[BarryRX]

Originally Posted by BobKat1

If a snowbird becomes a full time resident, do they automatically go from bad to good??

There's a story about an immigrant waiting on line at Ellis Island to be granted admittance to the United States. After a long wait, they let him enter the country. He turns around to the immigrant standing behind him and yells "go back where you came from...you immigrants are ruining this country". I love my snowbird neighbors and friends. But I also admit that I also enjoy the brief window when the snowbirds head north, traffic and crowds thin out, and the weather is still beautiful before the heat of summer hits us. My enjoyment of a less crowded community does NOT mean that I don't value all the great friends I have made that are seasonal.

[looneycat]

I like the villages that's why I'm here, I assume the same for others living here, what more is there to know?

I don't begrudge anyone else enjoying the villages. I don't like crowds and traffic...neither do the birds, flakes or frogs....whose only crime is living in the house they bought here.

somebody needs to shoulder their pack and take a hike...

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I have to admit that when I hear fulltime residents complain about seasonal residents, it makes me sad. And when they blame us for clogging up the roads and taking their tee times and causing accidents and making them wait in restaurants, I feel sad and unwanted. We love The Villages just as much as you do. And we gladly pay taxes and amenities all year long. Please be nice to seasonal residents.

Don't you dare be sad Bare...or an Bird of any kind be hurt or take offense. I think frogs do love to tease birds on occasion. Now that I am a frog, I like to make a little fun of the birdies.

Army Guy is a good person too and I know he meant no harm. We all just talk and post on here too much until it is like picking a scab.

Do you know that one know it all woman on here has almost ten thousand posts? and she continues to ramble on?

Sheesh.

I would like to go on record that the cowboys and the farmers should be friends....and so should birds and frogs.

Peace. AND REMEMBER. THERE IS NO PEE IN LAKE SUMTER.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Army Guy

Let me say and before I start let me say it is just my and my friends feelings, all snowbirds are not bad, BUT by and large a large portion of them are, in that they are rude and feel they should have priority over all because they are only here for half the year but pay for all. Several of my friends and my wife and I included have been told that point blank by snowbirds. I can also say as a fact that believe it or not even the Businesses are ready by the end to see them go because of their rudeness. My wife and I go out to eat almost every night and have gotten to know many of the servers and owners of eating places and they have a hard time with them.
Army Guy

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I think frogs do love to tease birds on occasion.

Army Guy's comments weren't teasing or in jest. They were mean spirited. I don't think "a large portion of snowbirds" should be called rude, that's a sweeping generalization. However everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That's the purpose of a Forum. Long live TOTV.

[senior citizen]

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[Mikeod]

Wow! Now step away from the keyboard and take a breath.

What I find humorous is that people in my neighborhood love their snowbird neighbors and anxiously await their return in the fall/winter. It's those "other people" that clog up the restaurants and golf courses.

The underlying situation is competition. Competition for restaurant seating, town center seating, starting times. Full timers feel pushed aside by seasonal residents, and seasonal residents feel they need to enjoy the amenities they are paying for all year as much as possible during their stay. As a previous poster stated, that creates potential conflict, as facilities are limited. Full timers should remember that some of the crowding is also due to their guests.

It all depends on how you look at it. If you consider the summer months normal, you may chafe at the crowds in the high season. If you look at the summer months as a bonus, I think you are less troubled in the winter.

[cathyw]

I would imagine that all full timers claim the homestead exemption and seasonal or renters do not.

[Shimpy]

As far as I'm concerned snowbirds pay for the whole year and that is their choice whether they stay here or not. It doesn't give them anymore priority than anyone else.
I hardly use my car and pay for it the whole year but that doesn't give me priority on the roads.
Most snowbirds I personally know don't feel privileged and I look forward to seeing them return. I also don't look forward to the added congestion.

[BobKat1]

The only (unavoidable) negative we've found with TV is the increasing size, traffic and congestion. Most people adapt to it, but going in, it's good to know about these things.

[cappyjon431]

Originally Posted by BobKat1

The only (unavoidable) negative we've found with TV is the increasing size, traffic and congestion. Most people adapt to it, but going in, it's good to know about these things.

Don't forget, most of these problems only occur during 5-6 months of the year. You will get used to it, and you'll certainly treasure the slower seasons.