[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

If a thin paver is 30mm how thick is an average or thick paver?

[Nucky]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

If a thin paver is 30mm how thick is an average or thick paver?

An eyeball estimate is a thick paver is double a thin paver. The thin pavers are fine for a garden walkway or similar application...never for a vehicle of any kind. The main reason that concrete & pavers fail are the base is not deep enough and not a uniform depth over the area to be covered. Thick Pavers. 8 inch base uniform depth compacted by machine. Perimeter secured by dry bagged cement with some water sprayed on after pavers applied and leveled will hold the field tightly for a long time. A cement sand mixture should then be swept into the cracks between the pavers and lightly watered. At this point you should be fine. If you do this preparation with thin pavers you are doomed to failure at some time in the future. Calling a contractor it is your best bet because this is back breaking work. If he mentions the thin pavers show him the door. Good Luck.

[biker1]

The two commonly discussed thicknesses are 30mm and 60mm. I believe there may be 80 or 90mm also.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

If a thin paver is 30mm how thick is an average or thick paver?

[Nova Filtration]

I disagree if thin pavers are installed correctly they will be fine.

In fact using cement around the perimeter is old school, the better way is masonry adhesive.

See post #30


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[DeanFL]

I'm not discounting those that had/have problems with theirs...but...

My last home in Leesburg = thinpavers on driveway and walkway, 8 years, only 2 had thin crack and replaced in 10 min. Here in TV Gilchrist, thinpavers on drive and walk for 2 years = perfect. And 5 neighbors had theirs done by them right after ours.

Perhaps the key to our good luck was the firm providing and installing = Paradise Pavers and Coping/Walls. A great company with excellent reputation, and our experience as well. Local private firm-Lady Lake, been in business for many years - Owner Neil Steinmetz - 352 267 9063.

Paradise Pavers, Coping and Wals. Paving Your Way To Paradise!

On the back of their business cards:
"The Greatest compliment we could ever receive is your personal referral as our friends and customers"

We are extremely pleased with them so the above applies. Perhaps if you are considering pavers, recommend you contact them for a visit/consult.

[biker1]

Do you have pavers (of any thickness) and/or are you an installer?

Originally Posted by Nova Filtration

I disagree if thin pavers are installed correctly they will be fine.

In fact using cement around the perimeter is old school, the better way is masonry adhesive.

See post #30


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[vinnie]

Leo's Landscaping is in Belleview.
352.266.6448
You can come to Chatham and see for yourself 2 jobs done.
Thornehill Ave is 3rd cul de sac on left after entering Chatham gate.
The one on the corner is not sealed yet. I just sealed mine myself. I am yellow house at end of cul de sac
There is a learning curve so you can stop by if you wish to chat
Vin Powell
17320 Se 81st Thornehill Ave
Chatham
315.246.1056
P.S. I might add that my neighbor had his concrete removed because pavers are not really meant to be sitting on cement driveway. this is allowed is Marion county but may or may not be allowed elsewhere in The Villages
My concrete driveway was only partially removed due to my slope was more severe.
Nothing can be removed near front portico at front door due to foundation issues. No problem with cracking anyway since it is only pedestrian traffic. Based on quotes, I saved 20 % over lowest quote.

[vinnie]

60 mm

[vinnie]

NO, I am a homeowner that had thin pavers when I bought house that were terrible. Cracking, had them replaced, then sealed and had white cloud over them
just had new paver driveway done with thick pavers except for threshold of garage
the thin pavers are thicker than 10 years ago but why would I redo with thin when I can get thick for same price as some installers charge for thin.
two jobs done on our cul de sac by Leo's and you can see for yourself if you think it looks good.
By the way, if you had that artist design done on driveway, the estimate for my driveway was more than brick pavers and i think the pavers are a richer look.
Maintenance is no more or less for either type.
Good luck

[hamsfc59]

I've used them and they crack over time, so I'd avoid them. For anyone who has used them, cracking can be forestalled by regularly re-sanding which minimizes the shifting of the pavers and minimizes the breakage.$4,000 and $5,000 depending on driveway size.

[villagetinker]

There is a very interesting point that I was never able to get answered. Malls, auto dealerships and others have TILE (1/4 inch thick) on their floors, and drive cars on them all the time NO CRACKING. I was actually considering the use of thin pavers or tile on the driveway, but could NOT get a straight answer from the concrete experts, or the paver/tile people. It would seem to me that either of these products installed with the SUITABLE bonding agent WOULD NOT CRACK as the load from the car would be transferred to the concrete driveway. However, this is NOT done, have never been able to find out why this type of installation is not done.
I am no longer pursuing this as we had the driveway stained and are very happy wit the result.

[mulligan]

I believe you would find that the large area tile installations are set with "mud" to level the surfaces. This would add at minimum the thickness of the tile to the installation, You would almost need to re-pour the concrete drive at a lower elevation to make up the difference. Additionally, the "mud" base would retain water perhaps causing a mold problem in outdoor installations.

[biker1]

There is a dry material called PaverLoc that is used for thin pavers over concrete. You spread a thin layer and set the thin pavers on top of it. The outer row is set with a wet, thinset-like material. It doesn't appears that the installers around here use the material.

Originally Posted by villagetinker

There is a very interesting point that I was never able to get answered. Malls, auto dealerships and others have TILE (1/4 inch thick) on their floors, and drive cars on them all the time NO CRACKING. I was actually considering the use of thin pavers or tile on the driveway, but could NOT get a straight answer from the concrete experts, or the paver/tile people. It would seem to me that either of these products installed with the SUITABLE bonding agent WOULD NOT CRACK as the load from the car would be transferred to the concrete driveway. However, this is NOT done, have never been able to find out why this type of installation is not done.
I am no longer pursuing this as we had the driveway stained and are very happy wit the result.

[vinnie]

I went to thick pavers....looks great. Picture posted on this thread

[vinnie]

I posted Leo's number
Leo's landscaping is out of Bellview