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Old 04-29-2015, 02:43 AM
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Whether it resembles a city or not, the reality is that is is not one, any more than Recreation Plantation on 466 is. Both are organized businesses providing housing and amenities / activities. Yet I would be highly surprised to see anyone at Recreation Plantation going to great lengths to tell the ownership how to run the park, what and where to build, dispute their right to add or remove attractions (like the buffalo, Katie Belle's, etc. ) ,and otherwise how to put their financial investment at risk. And even if they tried, the ownership there would probably tell them (and rightfully so) that if they don't like and appreciate the business proposal, maybe it would be best for everyone if they moved on to another place that fit their needs and wants. After all, Recreation Plantation does a robust business. So does the Villages. I think both business principals know what's best for their own operation.

We all move here knowing (or should know) that there is no mayor and council government at The Villages. Anyone who landed here without understanding that needs a history lesson.
An excellent post. Bingo and right on the money.

Anyone who has ever lived in a "city" should know that TV is not a city and I'm sure, never can or will be.
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An excellent post. Bingo and right on the money.

Anyone who has ever lived in a "city" should know that TV is not a city and I'm sure, never can or will be.
It is yet to be determined.

I find it interesting that the people who suggest that the developer runs TV as a business are taking the same position as the IRS in the Bond case. While our TV attorneys claim that the Villages are operated under CDD rules that allow elected officials to govern.
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:17 AM
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Look no further than the empty Irish pub property on highway 44 across from Brownwood. It's ridiculous that no other bar-restaurant re-opened at that prime location.
There was a news article recently, indicating that property was sold, and there will be a strip mall in that location. It is my understanding that part of the problem with O'Shays was the lack of golf cart access.
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An excellent post. Bingo and right on the money.

Anyone who has ever lived in a "city" should know that TV is not a city and I'm sure, never can or will be.
I've lived in several cities and as far as the daily experience of inhabitants, this is a city. If you are referring to the governing of the villages, it is different, but it is driven by what makes financial sense...unlike most cities.
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I agree with most of your assessment.

But while TV is definitely a business, it is also a CDD. To simply state that TV is a business and not a city is a bit simplistic. While a CDD is not technically a city, it is definitely more than just a business, and resembles a city in many ways.

Plus, whether it's technically accurate or not, I think most residents living here, shopping here, socializing here and having fun here would say TV much more closely resembles a city than just a business.
I think this mixes apples and oranges a bit. The business model applies to the Developer not to the CDD's. The CDD's are government entities authorized by the State of FL and are run like most government's with the exception that our CDD's work closely together through the sharing of central resources.
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So you think your getting your tax money worth? Public schools IMO in failing business model which all the fixes are raise school tax. Less school days more school breaks model is not working still have dumbing down compared to even third world schooling. India and China have better educated students with way less money spent. Money not the answer all the time IMO. Our system broke and will continue to be broke. Trillions can't fix it. All that does is raise superintendent salaries.
A result of money being siphoned off to private, religious and underperforming charter schools.......................
and not to forget reduction of state funding being diverted to certain governers private projects.
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By all related reportage, it was not Wildwood, but The Villages, which took the final stand. A fair and equitable proposal was made by the Developer. When the Mayor of Wildwood thought the deal was "in the bag", he overestimated his position of strength in the negotiations and tried to extort unreasonable last-minute concessions. It was a common, rather foolish, error of judgment.

Unless the Mayor has a rabbit somewhere in his tiny bag of tricks, this faux pas will cost the citizens and businesses of Wildwood dearly. Hope he has his resume in order.
I think the Mayor of Wildwood, overplayed his hand. I agree his posturing may cost Wildwood dearly. If taxes would have been 2K per home, Wildwood would lose 1.6 million per year, not to mention all of the jobs that would have been created.

The developer would have built something far better, than Wildwood would have. IMHO
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A result of money being siphoned off to private, religious and underperforming charter schools.......................
and not to forget reduction of state funding being diverted to certain governers private projects.
Don't confuse them with the facts Bogie.....the lottery was voted in as a means of enhancing public ed. The legislature took the lottery money and reduced educations share from the general fund.....
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I think the Mayor of Wildwood, overplayed his hand. I agree his posturing may cost Wildwood dearly. If taxes would have been 2K per home, Wildwood would lose 1.6 million per year, not to mention all of the jobs that would have been created.

The developer would have built something far better, than Wildwood would have. IMHO
A big yes to this post. Typical greed drove this mayor to go for gold, and now may have lost both silver and bronze.
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I think the Mayor of Wildwood, overplayed his hand. I agree his posturing may cost Wildwood dearly. If taxes would have been 2K per home, Wildwood would lose 1.6 million per year, not to mention all of the jobs that would have been created.

The developer would have built something far better, than Wildwood would have. IMHO
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I think the Mayor of Wildwood, overplayed his hand. I agree his posturing may cost Wildwood dearly. If taxes would have been 2K per home, Wildwood would lose 1.6 million per year, not to mention all of the jobs that would have been created.

The developer would have built something far better, than Wildwood would have. IMHO

Aren't those taxes paid to Sumter County, and then the county disperses the funds?

If the residents of Wildwood had any input, they probably would prefer a 24 hour Super Wal-Mart on that corner.
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I'm not that convinced that wildwood has lost all that much. They already get a nice slice of the pie from Pinellas and the houses that are actually in wildwood. For any added income (most of which will go to the county and be disbursed as it sees fit), wildwood would basically lose in any election in which the town residents want one thing and TV residents want another. That may be more important in the long run. Sooner or later, someone will develop that land, who remains to be seen.
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I'm not that convinced that wildwood has lost all that much. <snip> Sooner or later, someone will develop that land, who remains to be seen.
Most people are forgetting that the commercial development known as Trailwinds Village was already approved by Wildwood. Trailwinds Village website If The Villages of Wildwood had come to fruition, Trailwinds would have sold about 50 acres (the northern part) of the 150 total to The Villages. As it is now, it's completely feasible that Trailwinds will resume steps to develop all 150 acres.
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Aren't those taxes paid to Sumter County, and then the county disperses the funds?
No, property taxes on homes within the Incorporated City of Wildwood go to the city....Sumter County levies additional taxes on top of that!!
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