[mulligan]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Aren't those taxes paid to Sumter County, and then the county disperses the funds?

If the residents of Wildwood had any input, they probably would prefer a 24 hour Super Wal-Mart on that corner.

If you look at the conceptual plan already approved and in place with the proper zoning, there is actually a "big box retail store" near that corner.

[Meddick]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

So you think your getting your tax money worth? Public schools IMO in failing business model which all the fixes are raise school tax. Less school days more school breaks model is not working still have dumbing down compared to even third world schooling. India and China have better educated students with way less money spent. Money not the answer all the time IMO. Our system broke and will continue to be broke. Trillions can't fix it. All that does is raise superintendent salaries.

I do not know much about schools in China, but I have a real problem with the statement that schools in India are much better than in the US. Having lived in India for almost 5 years, I was able to learn about the public schools. Many are not much more than day care centers. Some do not even have books available.

Even the working poor struggle mightily to save up the tuition to send their children to private schools.

Yes, there is a need for improvements in parts of the US education system, but I strongly recommend against using India's schools systems as a model.

[Yorio]

Am disappointed that there won't be 800 more homes and new rec center as well as golf courses built. For those who want Costco or Trader Joe's built near our area, big business think of traffic before making decisions. Too bad.

[villagetinker]

The previous project (Trailwinds?) seemed to be a good balance, this was before we moved here, so I am not very familiar with the details. It seemed to balance commercial with homes, but when I looked at the previously posted link, I did not notice golf cart access. I really think this is an item that needs to be addressed in any plan for this parcel.

But as mentioned before we need to be careful what we wish for, we might get it!

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

The previous project (Trailwinds?) seemed to be a good balance, this was before we moved here, so I am not very familiar with the details. It seemed to balance commercial with homes, but when I looked at the previously posted link, I did not notice golf cart access. I really think this is an item that needs to be addressed in any plan for this parcel.

But as mentioned before we need to be careful what we wish for, we might get it!

You will not see golf cart access to Trailwinds from TV because access from TV invites access from outside TV.. The developer has established that access for golf carts from outside TV is not desired. It was an early sticking point in the Fruitland Park negotiations that ended with no access from Fruitland Park. The infamous wall was another attempt to block outside access via golf cart, now replaced by a gate requiring a Villages gate pass.

[villagetinker]

Originally Posted by Mikeod

You will not see golf cart access to Trailwinds from TV because access from TV invites access from outside TV.. The developer has established that access for golf carts from outside TV is not desired. It was an early sticking point in the Fruitland Park negotiations that ended with no access from Fruitland Park. The infamous wall was another attempt to block outside access via golf cart, now replaced by a gate requiring a Villages gate pass.

Ah, yes you are correct, I was coming from having the developer essentially do the Trailwinds project, or something similar, so it was under their control, but that gets back to the golf cart issue. Dose not matter to me as I use a car to get around.

[zonerboy]

Please note that the proposed 800 home development The Villages wished to build on part of this now vacant land would also have severe golf cart access problems (or perhaps I should say golf cart exit problems). Those purchasing homes in this area would be essentially completely isolated from other areas of The Villages, at least as far as golf cart travel is concerned. The is no provision for cart crossing across 466A to Pinellas shopping, doctors offices, golf corses, etc. There is no provision for access to multi modal paths along Buena Vista Blvd. And there is is no depicted route providing access to adjacent already existing areas of The Villages such as Tamarind Grove or St Charles. Very poorly planned in my opinion.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by zonerboy

Please note that the proposed 800 home development The Villages wished to build on part of this now vacant land would also have severe golf cart access problems (or perhaps I should say golf cart exit problems). Those purchasing homes in this area would be essentially completely isolated from other areas of The Villages, at least as far as golf cart travel is concerned. The is no provision for cart crossing across 466A to Pinellas shopping, doctors offices, golf corses, etc. There is no provision for access to multi modal paths along Buena Vista Blvd. And there is is no depicted route providing access to adjacent already existing areas of The Villages such as Tamarind Grove or St Charles. Very poorly planned in my opinion.

Not accurate. The plans show a cart path through the north part of the proposed village exiting through the Tamarind Grove mail station area into that village and then to the rest of TV.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Mikeod

Not accurate. The plans show a cart path through the north part of the proposed village exiting through the Tamarind Grove mail station area into that village and then to the rest of TV.

And that will make an already bad traffic situation at the TG postal station even worse.

[zonerboy]

Originally Posted by Mikeod

Not accurate. The plans show a cart path through the north part of the proposed village exiting through the Tamarind Grove mail station area into that village and then to the rest of TV.

So if a resident of this new village wanted to drive their cart over to Winn Dixie (a couple of hundred yards away) to pick up a half gallon of milk, they could go thru the Tamarind Grove postal station, over to Tamarind Grove Run, take it down to St Charles, follow it down to Buena Vista, get on the multi modal path and take the tunnel under Buena Vista, continue thru Turtle Mound exec course to the tunnel under 466A, follow the path back to Buena Vista, then turn south on the path down to Pinellas and go thru the tunnel under Buena Vista again and follow Pinellas on down for a mile or so just before it ends at 466A, turn left into the strip mall, and there you are at Winn Dixie. I stand by my opinion. Very poorly planned.

[handyman]

Ta Daa ! A new bridge spanning 466a !

[villagetinker]

Originally Posted by zonerboy

So if a resident of this new village wanted to drive their cart over to Winn Dixie (a couple of hundred yards away) to pick up a half gallon of milk, they could go thru the Tamarind Grove postal station, over to Tamarind Grove Run, take it down to St Charles, follow it down to Buena Vista, get on the multi modal path and take the tunnel under Buena Vista, continue thru Turtle Mound exec course to the tunnel under 466A, follow the path back to Buena Vista, then turn south on the path down to Pinellas and go thru the tunnel under Buena Vista again and follow Pinellas on down for a mile or so just before it ends at 466A, turn left into the strip mall, and there you are at Winn Dixie. I stand by my opinion. Very poorly planned.

WELL SAID, this is exactly the point I have posted a few times. I knew the path would be long, but this is ridiculous. People in these homes will have to use cars to get around, or skirt the law and cross 466a at Powell or Pinellas, a potential disaster. I hope all of the parties can get together on a more sensible plan.

[ROCKETMAN]

I am glad wildwood stood their ground and asked for some concessions from the villages. In the end both sides will give a little and we will have have 785 more homes and 1200 more people. With a population of 115,000, only concern would be another tunnel under 466a. The one by colony will be crowded enough with fruitland park residents.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

WELL SAID, this is exactly the point I have posted a few times. I knew the path would be long, but this is ridiculous. People in these homes will have to use cars to get around, or skirt the law and cross 466a at Powell or Pinellas, a potential disaster. I hope all of the parties can get together on a more sensible plan.

I believe what "all of the parties" means is that the developers will have to decide to spend the money to build a tunnel under 466A. And they have not been doing that for convenience sake down in these parts.

[memason]

An easier solution would be to lobby the city/county to allow golf carts to cross 466a at the intersection. In my opinion, there's no good argument for why carts can't cross at controlled intersections anyway.