[Didiwinbob]

Onslowe- I have noticed the people being arrested are under 50 yrs. not liking this

[sunnyatlast]

Well, some criticized in another thread that the developer buying up 40+ dilapidated, tear-down homes in TV's original section, and building new villas and ranch/cottage homes on them (for around $200,000) would price lower income people out of TV.

If the tear-down, dilapidated homes are left there, it will only attract more of a bad element like the ones arrested, it seems to me. I don't think you can have it both ways. It's either tear down and revitalize, or let the area go downhill with more of the likes of these arrestees attracted to the lower prices/rent on the run-down properties.

[Rango]

Out on $2000 Bail.

[Advogado]

[QUOTE=onslowe;950728]Can someone tell me if the 80/20 rule as to age refers to the property owners or to the occupiers (renters, owners)?


The law is explained here. Complying with the 80% rule enables us to discriminate against families with children under the age of 18. Otherwise, such discrimination is illegal.

Senior Housing - HUD

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

My limited research indicates that Privada Dr is not in the historic section; but the house at that address lists an older couple in their 70s as the owners; this Wagner might be their son? If so, would seem that losers live in other villages neighborhoods, too!

Records do not show either of the residents of Teakwood Lane as owners of #2795 - so they must be renters?

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the arrests happened in the historic district. In fact, I think that I witnessed them. I was driving my golf cart on Wednesday and noticed several police cars in the area. As I went across Shay, I saw three or four police cars that had two golf carts pulled over. A few bystanders were standing by watching. I didn't go down to see what was going on but it looked very peculiar to me. As I made my way over to the golf cart bridge, I saw three or four more police cars driving around. They were both Lady Lake and County Sheriff cars.

I've been saying for a while now that there is a group of people here that are frightening. The police know who they are and have been slowly getting them off the streets. I believe that the people in the sex on the utility box were part of this group.The people who stole the beer from the Circle K and the ones who stole the golf clubs from the Circle K parking lot are also part of the same group that also includes the people running the golf cart chop shop.

The police went through a lot to get these folks. According to the article, Drug detection K-9s and laser speed enforcement were among some of the techniques utilized during this operation. Two of the people were arrested for driving without a license. How many times have you heard of people being arrested for that. It's usually a ticket and they tow your car. And that seems like an awful lot of police work for driving without a license.

The other guy was nabbed for a gun violation and drug possession while on probation. He's probably in big trouble.

The other thing that was mentioned was that the arrests were prompted by complaints from residents in this area of illegal activity.

We have a criminal gang operating here and it's good to see that the police are taking action to eliminate them.

[GatorFan]

I must have missed something. What were they doing that caused someone to call the police. Charged with driving on suspended license? Had a gun in the house? Not trying to be smart or anything. Just wondering why someone called the police?

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by GatorFan

I must have missed something. What were they doing that caused someone to call the police. Charged with driving on suspended license? Had a gun in the house? Not trying to be smart or anything. Just wondering why someone called the police?

Stolen golf carts, other complaints lead to Villages police operation - Daily Commercial: News

It sounds like this group had been under surveillance by the police after numerous complaints by neighbors.

[Bigben007]

Originally Posted by onslowe

Can someone tell me if the 80/20 rule as to age refers to the property owners or to the occupiers (renters, owners)?

I am serious. I don't know, but the parade of under 55 yr old arrestees over the past year here does lead me to ask this question.

No flamethrowing needed, just civil discussion please. Thanks everyone.

I wonder the same thing. Most of the DUI's and other arrest have been under 55.

[Chatbrat]

I always get a boot of people who disparage renters, if you have a mortgage you're a renter,too---the bank is your landlord

[onslowe]

[quote=Advogado;951260]

Originally Posted by onslowe

Can someone tell me if the 80/20 rule as to age refers to the property owners or to the occupiers (renters, owners)?


The law is explained here. Complying with the 80% rule enables us to discriminate against families with children under the age of 18. Otherwise, such discrimination is illegal.

Senior Housing - HUD

Thanks sincerely Avogado. It did answer the question I had. The HUD rules involve 80% of the 'occupiers' of houses, not title owners. Unfortunately, that leaves me with a bad feeling as to the possible abuse of the rule via unchecked rentals.

And those who feel better helping and defending the downtrodden renters from their armchairs, go ahead and have at it. I just know what I bought into and relied upon and agreed to.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

I always get a boot of people who disparage renters, if you have a mortgage you're a renter,too---the bank is your landlord

Not so!

[Advogado]

[quote=onslowe;951380]

Originally Posted by Advogado

Thanks sincerely Avogado. It did answer the question I had. The HUD rules involve 80% of the 'occupiers' of houses, not title owners. Unfortunately, that leaves me with a bad feeling as to the possible abuse of the rule via unchecked rentals.

And those who feel better helping and defending the downtrodden renters from their armchairs, go ahead and have at it. I just know what I bought into and relied upon and agreed to.

I don't think that we are in danger of having more than 20% of the houses without at least one occupant 55 or over. In fact, I don't personally know of any-- although, in theory, it could happen some day. It is a specter that Blechman raises in his attack book, Leisureville. I think that it is highly unlikely in the foreseeable future, however.

[jbdlfan]

[quote=Advogado;951429]

Originally Posted by onslowe

I don't think that we are in danger of having more than 20% of the houses without at least one occupant 55 or over. In fact, I don't personally know of any-- although, in theory, it could happen some day. It is a specter that Blechman raises in his attack book, Leisureville. I think that it is highly unlikely in the foreseeable future, however.

I know at least 15 homes OWNED by individuals under 55. Me being one. As far as the culprits being under 50 lately, it is more telling that they are renters than that of their age. Us that are owners of that age, tend to be more concerned about our community than those that don't. I have been a renter here as well as an owner, but in both cases, we took care of ourselves and our home as if we did in fact own it. Sadly, not always the case.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

I always get a boot of people who disparage renters, if you have a mortgage you're a renter,too---the bank is your landlord

That's simply not true. If you have a mortgage, you, not the bank owns the house. If you fail to pay the bank, they have a right to sue to take your property in lieu of repayment of the mortgage. That is a huge difference.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Bigben007

I wonder the same thing. Most of the DUI's and other arrest have been under 55.

Records are kept by The Villages. They have access to that information through the amenities fees and every person that buys a home or rents signs a disclosure form and an agreement. It is part of the closing procedure.

The law reads that 80% of the homes must be occupied by at least one person over the age of 55. It's entirely possible for 4/5 of the residents here to be under 55 and still be in compliance with the law.

I think that if you look at police records in general, fewer crimes are committed by older people.