[tainsley]

A stop sign on each corner?

[Figmo Bohica]

A lot of the cart drivers are Idiots. They stop in the middle of the cart lane to put down their sides when it starts to rain instead of pulling out of the traffic lane, I see them stopping on curves on the multi trails, stopping in tunnels, and lots of stupid stuff. You know you can not cure stupid it is a permanent way of thinking. You should drive your cart like you drive you car, Oh, I think some of them do.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by sands

Well, that particular intersection has had numerous serious accidents (including the aforementioned fatal accident last May) in just one year. I was by there shortly after the accident yesterday, too. Someone said that, yet again, a car blew through a stop sign. I don't know what it is about that intersection, but for some reason, people don't recognize and stop at the stop signs. Something needs to be done to make that intersection less dangerous.

According to the Daily Sun this morning the car that hit the golf cart ran the stop sign.

I see people going through red lights way too often.

The issue is that people are breaking traffic rules and the outcome is deadly. I say...get the cops out here and ticket speeders and rule breakers.

[Schaumburger]

Originally Posted by Jim 9922

Dangerous intersections, they won't worry about. BUT a blanket 15 MPH and 20 MPH speed limit they pass without a blink of an eyelash! A much bigger revenue raiser for the local cops and county!! Its politics, follow the money stream and you will get your answer as to how fast changes will be made..
Case in point: Delmar & Rio Grande intersection. They seem to have a car accident there every three months or so, but for over 16 years they have been "studying " the need for a 4 way stop. Maybe this July it may come to pass.
A nice safety issue, but not much income unless a cop sits there all day watching for rolling stops, or whatever. Also the forced stop on Rio Grande will slow speeds down and ruin a good speed trap area.

Jim9922, Thanks for the heads up about DelMar & Rio Grande intersection -- I'm renting near there next month, and want to be vigilent.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by tainsley

A stop sign on each corner?

More opportunities to run a stop sign.

[tainsley]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

More opportunities to run a stop sign.

I live on TG and come down TG Run 3-4 times a day. The stop sign is visible and before I make a left onto St. Charles I make sure I can turn safely without "stepping on the gas". I always make sure the car coming up Southern Star is stopped at the stop sign also. I see a lot of golf cart drivers taking big risks. Four way stop signs would certainly slow down traffic.

[Tom Hannon]

Originally Posted by tainsley

I live on TG and come down TG Run 3-4 times a day. The stop sign is visible and before I make a left onto St. Charles I make sure I can turn safely without "stepping on the gas". I always make sure the car coming up Southern Star is stopped at the stop sign also. I see a lot of golf cart drivers taking big risks. Four way stop signs would certainly slow down traffic.

I am also cautious when I pass the intersection. Especially after I ran the stop sign once. But many people pass this intersection for the first time and/or don't know of its tragic history. If one isn't aware of the danger, they can get careless.

[Boudicca]

Our friend and neighbor was killed at that exact intersection by a vehical running the stop sign. Because of that, I cross that piece of road in my trusty golf cart with great caution and a prayer. Good job I do, because on two occasions a vehical did not see my silver cart and ploughed on through. The second time was witnessed by our friends travelling behind my cart. Would you believe it was a neighborhood watch truck, and my friend called it in immediately on his cell phone. He received no acknowledgement at all. Thus I continue to slow down, stop, look both ways, and only then, cross. As the concensus seems to be "no" to a light, I suggest a speed bump.

[George Bieniaszek]

You can put Stop Signs and/or Traffic Lights at every street corner, and all it will do is bottle neck traffic and get everyone stressed out and hot under the collar. They still will be speeding and driving like maniacs!!

You cannot fix stupid!!!

Here's a hint to lessen traffic crashes -- S L O W D O W N!! Hang up the cell phone, drive defensively, and pay attention to your surroundings.

[tainsley]

Originally Posted by Tom Hannon

I am also cautious when I pass the intersection. Especially after I ran the stop sign once. But many people pass this intersection for the first time and/or don't know of its tragic history. If one isn't aware of the danger, they can get careless.

I agree Tom. Would love to see at least Stop signs on all four corners.

[zonerboy]

Dig out your map of The Villages (we all have one), and take a look at it. You'll find that those busy intersections in the southwest corner of the villages that have been the scenes of so many serious auto vs golf cart accidents of late, were actually engineered to be congested.
If you live in Tamarind Grove, for instance, and want to go anywhere else in or out of The Villages, you have to go thru the intersection of Tamarind Grove Run/Southern Star/St Charles. There are no other options. So of course it's busy and vehicles turning onto St Charles have a hard time.
Buttonwood and Buttonwood Run, and Pennecamp and Pennecamp Dr are similar situations. But not quite so bad since these are 3 way intersections instead of the 4 way intersection at Tamarind Grove.
I agree you cannot prevent stupidity, but the victims who get killed in these accidents may not be the stupid ones. So let's not stick our collective heads in the sand and just say "it is what it is". Let's try to find a solution!