[asianthree]

I was just wondering when there are honor flights for veterans where do they pick them up, and don't they go on buses how will this affect them. Or is it a car caravan?

[redwitch]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I also supported having only OUR golf carts on the trails here. Thus I supported the wall, and that ended well too.

I think that the Morses have excellent legal advice and they also play their cards close to their vest.

What is keeping a large tour bus group or a tour guide from advertising....join The Villages on their ride to....such and so???

Because it is a privately chartered bus. By contract, the operator cannot invite others to join in. This would be akin to you having a block party for neighbors only and someone then puts an ad in the paper inviting all Villagers to attend, but worse since the club could then sue the bus company.

As to things for profit in the rec centers, I'd say most of the instructors there consider what they are doing at least a job, if not a business. Very few volunteer. They get paid by participants. Ditto entertainers at club meetings such as DJs. Ditto Life-Long Learning Classes. Why would this be okay if making a profit is the issue for the private charters?

Don't know about you, but the building of the wall and the way it was done has left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth, including mine. It would not have ended well had not Villagers protested and called in the media. Sorry, can't give the developer any credit on this one.

Do you remember the stink caused when it was announced that support groups meeting at rec centers would allow non-Villagers to attend? The Morses totally supported this one. So did I. Several here didn't. So far as I know, there has not been a single incident involving the non-Villagers. It was a kind, right thing to do gesture on the part of groups, the rec centers and the developer. To me, allowing charter buses to pick up Villages residents at rec centers is the right thing to do.

[redwitch]

Originally Posted by DougB

Well, what do you expect besides a good show when two Scorps go head to head? Enjoy the show.

[twoplanekid]

As elected district supervisors may have a say in this matter, I believe public opinion will come in to play helping to resolve this issue in a fair an equitable manner. It has long been Janet Tutt and the Board Supervisors’ goals to encourage more resident involvement at all steps in the governing process

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

As elected district supervisors may have a say in this matter, I believe public opinion will come in to play helping to resolve this issue in a fair an equitable manner. It has long been Janet Tutt and the Board Supervisors’ goals to encourage more resident involvement at all steps in the governing process

And if it is not resolved, prospective buyers have the option of buying elsewhere if bus trips with friends are a priority for them.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by janmcn

And if it is not resolved, prospective buyers have the option of buying elsewhere if bus trips with friends are a priority for them.

Yes, assuming the realtors and sales agents let them know about it. And of course, there's the good-old "If You Don't Like It, Move" for the rest of us.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

As elected district supervisors may have a say in this matter, I believe public opinion will come in to play helping to resolve this issue in a fair an equitable manner. It has long been Janet Tutt and the Board Supervisors’ goals to encourage more resident involvement at all steps in the governing process

I don't look forward to or encourage this place run any differently than it is. There are a good many people who don't have any experience running things that want to run things.

And Redwitch, you are not completely right about "The Marchers" changing anything. The issue is, was and I hope always will be is that The Morses don't tell people what their goals are. They closed the wall when they were going into discussions with Fruitland Park about adding homes there. They didn't say that was WHY but it was closed just days before those negotiations began. It is my view that the developer did not want an EXISTING PRECEDENT to allow Fruitland Park to lobby for the same privilege of access with golf carts. I am all for that. We have enough golf carts with our own. Charity begins at home.

What I have learned in eight years is that The Morse clan aren't big at blowing their own horn, showing off with their mouths or telling what their plans are. That may not please some people, but it pleases me.

Some folks move here and in five minutes are trying to run things and change things.

Where is my rosary?

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by TrudyM

In most of the towns I have lived in before the clubs arrange to use a church parking lot with the church. The small donation to the church helps them and it makes use of an otherwise unused parking lot on weekdays.

Sounds like a good idea to me. Probably doesn't work on weekends.

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I don't look forward to or encourage this place run any differently than it is. There are a good many people who don't have any experience running things that want to run things.

And Redwitch, you are not completely right about "The Marchers" changing anything. The issue is, was and I hope always will be is that The Morses don't tell people what their goals are. They closed the wall when they were going into discussions with Fruitland Park about adding homes there. They didn't say that was WHY but it was closed just days before those negotiations began. It is my view that the developer did not want an EXISTING PRECEDENT to allow Fruitland Park to lobby for the same privilege of access with golf carts. I am all for that. We have enough golf carts with our own. Charity begins at home.

What I have learned in eight years is that The Morse clan aren't big at blowing their own horn, showing off with their mouths or telling what their plans are. That may not please some people, but it pleases me.

Some folks move here and in five minutes are trying to run things and change things.

Where is my rosary?

Sorry, but you live in a democracy. That’s just the way it is in the United States of American and I am proud I served in the military to help preserve that freedom and our way of life.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

Sorry, but you live in a democracy. That’s just the way it is in the United States of American and I am proud I served in the military to help preserve that freedom and our way of life.

Yes, and one of the benefits of a democracy is running a private enterprise such as The Villages as the principals see fit. I'd say they have done a fantastic job so far.

[Big O]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

Sorry, but you live in democracy. That’s just the way it is in the United States of American and I am proud I served in the military to help preserve that freedom and our way of life.

How in the hell does this have anything to do with living in a democracy? The Villages is a business and as such needs to protect it's interests. In this case it is protecting the businesses within it's boundaries. By the way, I served too, but I don't use that as a crutch for my arguments.

[skip0358]

It doesn't mater what bus company takes you outside the bubble. If TV had a bus company( and they don't) that had enough buses and of different sizes to handle the many bus trips by the various clubs in TV the same amount of parking spaces would be taken up as if an outside bus company came on to take them period. Since the TV bus can't handle the trips what choice is there ? Yea I know park somewhere else, that's not the answer nor are the churches because that only works on certain days period.
I've gathered by a good number of the negative posts that those people don't belong to a Club that does off property trips, or have never used the Amtrack bus that's no longer allowed or some of the tour operators that went to Georgia, New Orleans ,Biloxi etc. as they to are gone.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

Sorry, but you live in a democracy. That’s just the way it is in the United States of American and I am proud I served in the military to help preserve that freedom and our way of life.

Might not have been one of your better posts.....

[twoplanekid]

Please read the following as taken from the districtgov.org site ->

“Now that you are generally familiar with the District concept, let’s describe the election process and the Board of Supervisors who oversee the activities of the District. Initially the Board of Supervisors, consisting of five members, is elected based upon land ownership. The legislature, in creating Chapter 190, recognized that in order to maintain continuity of the facilities provided to the newly developing community, that the developer, who then owns the majority of the land should be granted the right to substantially complete the project as envisioned by the various land use and zoning approvals that were obtained as part of the development review process. However, the legislature also recognized that at the time prescribed by statute, control should transition to the residents. Therefore, at the election held in 2006, one supervisor was elected by a landowner vote (one vote per lot owned and/or one vote per acre owned). In addition, two supervisors were elected by "qualified electors" (registered voters) residing in CDD No. 4. From this point forward, all elections in District 4 will be qualified based elections. This election conversion format ensures that the residents ultimately control the level of service provided to the infrastructure facilities that the District maintains.”

By all means, let what the Developer controls (the 3 commercial Districts) under the rule of law control. As the citizens will eventually have sole control of District 1-11 and more, please encourage people to run for office and others to participate in the processes of government.

Yes, I am proud to have served and thankful others have also served! A democracy needs good people to serve and participate.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Might not have been one of your better posts.....

The last thing I would do is move to a place because I like it so much and then try to change it. Sometimes we throw the baby out with the bath water....and sometimes we make things better. But to change the basics of how this unusual place is run is probably risking that it would change to be like all other similar size cities that are run where politics causes a big mess and a lot of ineffective and wasteful spending. Just for starters.