[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

Here we go, again.

The cyclist, who has ever right to be on the road, is again blamed. Who made the mistake? The motorist, who was not paying attention, the motorist, who will be held criminally and civilly liable, the motorist.

Yet the cyclistpays the price


Why can't a single cyclist or group of them use the MMP someone asked? They can if they wish but some do not because of rude cart drivers, among a myriad of other reasons.


Why do cyclists ride in groups on the road, taking an entire lane? Because it is safer, you see them and cannot share a lane with them.

What can cyclists do to minimize accidents?

1.Take the lane to be seen
2. Wear bright colors, yes even Lycra
3. Use extremely bright flashing lights. I recommend cygolite for the visablity of a thousand suns
4. Install an automotive horn for bikes. I recommend loudbicycle.com
5. Install rear facing radar to warn you of auto traffic approaching

I agree with everything you posted AFTER the highlighted part. There is no evidence, so you just ASSUMED the motorist was to blame. Like a cyclist blowing through a stop or yield sign NEVER HAPPENS. But like I said, I agree with everything from there on.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by Taurus510

Here we go again. I think the OP stated that they had every right to be there. Just because they have the right, it doesn’t make it smart. I have every right to stand around in the projects waving a fistful of money in the air. Is it smart?

Gotta kick out of the "projects" part. Oops my age is showing.

[Gpsma]

Bicyclist are the most arrogant people here..followed shortly behind golfers.

At least golfers arent on Buena Vista and Morse impeding traffic in their tighty outfits

[Babubhat]

Saw a wide golf cart that didn’t fit in the cart lane. Way too narrow in historic part

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Hmm, so why are their people driving with driving impairments? I would very much like to see anyone over 70 have to be rectified every year. But, that is just me - I am 72.

And as a previous motorcycle rider, I agree, that is dangerous. It is paramount for them to assume the cars can't/don't see them. As for the bike riders, I also rode many centuries, and the safest place for a bike rider in on the road going the same direction as the cars.

a century is 100 years.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

a century is 100 years.

In bicycling terms, it's a 100 mile ride.

And I agree with your signature, but I would add an educated electorate is another requirement.

[Debfrommaine]

Certainly hope the biker is OK. Left my house in the dark at 6:10am today, passed a biker no lights and dark clothes, accident waiting to happen. Also, the golf carts or cars that don't turn on their headlights especially down Morse. Amazing.

[tsmall22204]

Oh you know so much.

[bowlingal]

I find driving on Buena Vista by Seabreeze rec center in the morning, the bicyclists whether there be 2 or 10 ride right down the middle of the first lane blocking the whole first lane from cars and trucks. No wonder people get hit. What happened to single file 3 feet from the curb?

[brianherlihy]

i drive a golf cart. and the cyclist blowing through a stop or yield sign all the time . so i dont stop , cyclist when thay du in will

[thevillages2013]

Not surprised at all. Going north on BV from 466A around noon Wednesday there was a lone bike rider in the right lane doing what he was supposed to do staying to the right and he gets passed in the same lane by a large SUV and a truck pulling a trailer. I looked back and he made it ok just probably scared the crap out of him

[toeser]

I ride seven days per week. I would not dream of biking on Buena Vista or any of the other 35 MPH roads without shoulders. Yes, it's a legal right, but so is bull riding and I don't do that either.

[Toymeister]

No 2013thevillages, the cyclist was not 'doing what they are supposed to do'. If the cyclist had taken the lane by riding down the middle, the truck with trailer would have exited the lane to the number two lane and passed. In so doing the truck would not shared the lane with the cyclist, Road Cycling: Why Do You Ride Like That? - CyclingSavvy

I'll make it easier for you here is a quote from that link: Keeping to the right can often hide a bicyclist from a turning motorist at the critical time and place. Most overtaking crashes involve a motorist who attempts to squeeze past (illegally) in a lane that is too narrow to share. Check out this animation to see all the hazards that make staying far right NOT practicable!

Because it is state law that motorist must give cyclists three feet of space and cyclists don't run precisely on the roads edge, the road is never wide enough to 'share the lane' with a cyclist, NEVER.

[deputydoc]

That biker was not hit by a car, he fell over walking his bike across the street and hit the curb, then turned into a total ass to the paramedics trying to assess him

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by deputydoc

That biker was not hit by a car, he fell over walking his bike across the street and hit the curb, then turned into a total ass to the paramedics trying to assess him

source?????