[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Caymus

So, they are socially conscious when it is convenient?

Maybe they take up issues they feel strongly about -

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Very hard to diagnose you. Your loss of touch with reality is one of Bleuler's original 5 criteria for schizophrenia, but your prolific posting on multiple subjects with an apparent lack of knowledge would suggest narcissistic personality disorder. I'm going to have to opt for organic personality disorder or a mixed disorder. The good news is that these conditions can be treated. Get help.

PS: Never, NEVER question my patriotism again.

LOL, LOL. Stop putting out your "self" diagnosis, they may come for you.
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[Madelaine Amee]

The following is a quote from a Florida legislator and it really says it all:

"It’s still possible, however, that some of the bills legislators approved this week will be undone. Brandes contended that Disney would probably win in the end — and that lawmakers ultimately would probably back down in the face of legal rulings.

“Disney lawyers are better than Florida lawyers,” Brandes said. “They will tie up in court for a decade and then Florida will cry uncle. And it won’t matter because DeSantis will be gone.”

[bgamble3]

Disney has revealed itself as groomers to small children. That info is on You Tube if you care to look it up. They do not deserve to remain tax free which is what they have enjoyed from the taxpayers when they were thought to be an entertainment company.
The elites of Disney were on digital media boasting about how they were going to increase their grooming of children to accept as normal, abnormal sexual activity.
The governor is doing his job and should be commended and supported for having the courage to go after this corporations attack against families and especially small children.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Unbelievable. First of all , it is no longer a "proposal", it is a LAW.

Second, please explain how a law that prohibits the teaching of sexual orientation to 5-8 year old children affects their "employees and guests"?????

And third, for the 20th time, it is not the obligation of a publicly traded corporation to "state their opinion" and if they do there are possible consequences (such as rescinding the Reedy Creek special district and losing 35 billion in market capitalization), not to mention if their profit decreases due to their "stating their opinion" the entire board of Disney could be sued by its shareholders for breach of fiduciary responsibility.

A law "to prohibit" something that only exists as a conspiracy theory in the minds of culture warriors is a law about a problem that does NOT exist. A law that is a solution to a "make-believe:" problem is a law ginned up to create culture-war controversy and make an impression and get US-wide publicity (under the theory that even BAD publicity is good publicity. V. Putin stated that truth is non-existent and possibilities are endless! maybe this is a case of endless possibilities in Florida.
........Disney simply said that this situation is bizzaro and simply wrongheaded. I come down on Disney's side on this important controversy and I imagine so do most right-thinking Americans.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Corporations have little business being on the forefront of anything, except their primary industry as it relates to their reason for existence: Returns to shareholders.

Yes, a corporation like Edwards Lifesciences SHOULD be on the forefront of scientific progress. That is their industry and field, and being on the forefront is how they return to shareholders. A corporation like JP Morgan SHOULD be on the forefront of economic progress, as that is how they create returns to shareholders.

Corporations have ZERO business being anywhere at all involved with social anything, unless they cover Hollywood news or need to stay abreast of the zeitgeist for their movie/tv products to appeal to the masses and generate revenue (id est - returns to shareholders).

Corporations should be as separate from Social reform as church is from state.

If only the church would stay separate from the state.

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

Putting aside all the "opinions" being written on this site, people have forgotten the real reason Disney got this benefit .... it was an incentive to get them to build in Florida. To build in an area of Florida which was literally a sand box. Nobody wanted to move inland in those days, everyone was headed for the breaches.

Any smart attorney (and Disney probably has dozens of them on call) can site this clause and then call the case one of malice for going against the politics in Florida They can then suggest very loudly that if they are denied special privileges granted to them in the 1960s, what about the dozens of other developers who are benefiting from the same clause they were offered.

This is a no win any way you look at it and could end up being disastrous for Florida.

Exactly. They invested huge amounts of money into land that was basically swamp and pasture and became the biggest employer in Florida. It was a prime example of public/private partnership. It would certainly give pause to other corporations thinking of coming to the state. Not to mention the tax consequences of this. Disney can hand off all the costs of road maintenance, waste disposal, fire protection, policing, etc. possibly repayment on bonds. And who would be paying those costs? Taxpayers of course. Another dumb move, right up there with banning 40% of math textbooks.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Actually, I'm not OK with either scenario---I want the teacher teaching---not discussing their social life, sex life, or after work plans. Besides, the pickleball players will claim her bowling statement is discriminatory and sue!

Everybody should just stay in their lane - forget American ingenuity - forget creativity. Watch what you say because BIG BROTHER will get you. V. Putin is lowering the iron curtain to keep everyone in their lanes.

[Two Bills]

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[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Oh please, get in line, this poster you are speaking of(which btw is commenting under 2 diff names) is the most condensing, self righteous, rudest person, and I'm trying to be kind. He says he holds a degree or two....obviously another lie, and I say this bc he is so degrading and dismissive of others. He then ends his strong hold rants with his stupid emojis laughing. Trust me, he'll come back with a snarky comment to this, as he did to yours..
Oh well..

But I do enjoy your openmindedness.

I agree that after a person throws their credentials in your face for say about 4 times........that it begins to make a person want to puke!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

LOL, LOL. Stop putting out your "self" diagnosis, they may come for you.
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Love it---you're not so bad after all

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

That info is on You Tube if you care to look it up. They do not deserve to remain tax free which is what they have enjoyed from the taxpayers when they were thought to be an entertainment company.
The elites of Disney were on digital media boasting about how they were going to increase their grooming of children to accept as normal, abnormal sexual activity.
The governor is doing his job and should be commended and supported for having the courage to go after this corporations attack against families and especially small children.

Walt Disney World paid $780.3 million in state and local taxes in 2021.
As for the grooming.
Maybe you should take all that evidence to your local Vice Squad.

I seriously doubt you have seen anything that would rise to the level of "evidence".

I see you did not leave a link to that "evidence".

So, I choose to not believe you. Please change my mind, provide any evidence.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

Putting aside all the "opinions" being written on this site, people have forgotten the real reason Disney got this benefit .... it was an incentive to get them to build in Florida. To build in an area of Florida which was literally a sand box. Nobody wanted to move inland in those days, everyone was headed for the breaches.

Any smart attorney (and Disney probably has dozens of them on call) can site this clause and then call the case one of malice for going against the politics in Florida They can then suggest very loudly that if they are denied special privileges granted to them in the 1960s, what about the dozens of other developers who are benefiting from the same clause they were offered.

This is a no win any way you look at it and could end up being disastrous for Florida.

I agree with the content of this post. Kudos!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I agree that after a person throws their credentials in your face for say about 4 times........that it begins to make a person want to puke!

Really???? And I've so much enjoyed verbally sparring with you over the years. But just because I'm far more qualified than you, no need to "puke", I can make allowances for you

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I agree that after a person throws their credentials in your face for say about 4 times........that it begins to make a person want to puke!

Well, darn, here I thought everyone was mad at me, but, I have never claimed to have a degree. Not once. I only post under this account. Darn. And while I have had "timeouts" (many have) I have never been banned.

All though that is an interesting challenge...get banned and get resurrected. Hmmm.