[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

So, if none of this ever happens in Pre-K-3, why is everyone so angry about the new law?

I would suggest it is something like "mob rule". Someone starts to rile people up, most of them have no idea of what the new rule means and off they go. History shows it is easy to rile up a mob who hear half a story and do not ever fully understand. Ignorance is bliss and, unfortunately, there is a lot of ignorance in this world.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

I seriously doubt you have seen anything that would rise to the level of "evidence".

I see you did not leave a link to that "evidence".

So, I choose to not believe you. Please change my mind, provide any evidence.

There are a multitude of videos, posted by the pre-school, and K-3 teachers themselves.

I'd post them here, but I'm sure they would result in a vacation, if not a permanent ban...

Go to twitter. Look up "Libs of Tick Tock". They have posted many of those videos...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Agreed. I feel that a lot of what this is all about is what I would call "fear of losing the POWER of white superiority". Leaders that can try to slow down the descent of white superiority can attract donations and POWER to themselves. Fear is used as an emotion and as a weapon to that end.

So nice of you to place blame and instill fear... Just a few posts after you chastised others for placing blame and instilling fear...

"It's like there MUST be a new WEEKLY enemy to hate.......usually a minority, never a wasp. The dark web churns out new HATE on a regular basis - even baby-eating liberals. No problems are solved, like improved roads and bridges in the US. Just crazy emotions get stirred up. The idea is to make truth non-existent and increase opportunities for chaos.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Agreed. I feel that a lot of what this is all about is what I would call "fear of losing the POWER of white superiority". Leaders that can try to slow down the descent of white superiority can attract donations and POWER to themselves. Fear is used as an emotion and as a weapon to that end.

So nice of you to place blame and instill fear... Just a few posts after you chastised others for placing blame and instilling fear...

"It's like there MUST be a new WEEKLY enemy to hate.......usually a minority, never a wasp. The dark web churns out new HATE on a regular basis - even baby-eating liberals. No problems are solved, like improved roads and bridges in the US. Just crazy emotions get stirred up. The idea is to make truth non-existent and increase opportunities for chaos."

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Or it could be the method that fascist cult members use to control the US. Think hard about this, PLEASE!

Instilling more "FEAR", I see...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

One more thing to think about:

Those pesky Disney attorneys are going to turn over Florida tax records and find out what all these big time developers are paying in taxes, that should be interesting

You poke a bear ..................... well you know the rest. But, you sure better know what you are doing.

Which has nothing to do with their case, so there's that...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Another interesting side of this discussion is that the law definitely targets a specific minority in our country, and yet, the founding fathers were very specific about protecting the minority from the majority. Agreed it is "backhanded" like so much today, where the language is vague enough to give them plausible deniability, and still specific enough to achieve the goals.

The law "targets" no one... That is, unless you believe that a "specific minority" is doing what you claim they are not doing...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

So, they should be censored?

Since when does the word "need" mean censorship of any kind...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Yup and I have to wonder about the intentions of a governor that does this when the state's leading revenue machine is tourism. International Tourism. 50 million tourists every year by just Disney.

7% of the population identify as LGBTQ. Whether or not they are doesn't really matter, they identify and will remember.

70% or higher of Americans support LGTBQ - many polls confirm, some higher, some lower. They will remember.

So, one has to ask oneself, is the Governor doing what is best for the State, or what is best for his primary challenge in the next Presidental election. And if this law gets overturned, will be can be assured he will use that as proof he was right.

The law never mentions, nor implies LGBTQ. That's all on you...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Very good post. But, I wonder what percentage of the Income Tax we don't pay, is paid by Disney... because, someone is paying it.

And how much more would Disney be paying if they didn't still have the sweetheart tax breaks?

I'm SHOCKED that you're not demanding that they "pay their fair share"...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

So when did that change to where you are now????

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

And how much more would Disney be paying if they didn't still have the sweetheart tax breaks?

I'm SHOCKED that you're not demanding that they "pay their fair share"...

Since when did the wealthy in this WORLD ever pay their fair share? The shrinking middle class keeps this country running.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

You left off the rest of my post using an example of the laws (like this one) from Taxes where the woman ended up in jail because the local police didn't understand the law.

Crazy vaguely worded laws are a serious cause for concern since it is so easy to m isunderstand their innocent intent.

Methinks "lawsuits", which are handled by judges, who have a tad bit more knowledge of the law, would alleviate your proposed scenario...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

So, regardless of the "intent" and the "likely outcome" what is important to you is the actual wording? If that is the case, you won't have a problem with people suing the Schools for teaching heterosexual relationships, you know books showing two males are banned, so banning books showing a man and woman is okay? The law is vague about what is banned.

You are conflating "teaching reading" vs teaching about heterosexual/homosexual relationships.

There is nothing in the law that prohibits mentioning homosexual relationships...

I suggest you read it...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

I would suggest it is something like "mob rule". Someone starts to rile people up, most of them have no idea of what the new rule means and off they go. History shows it is easy to rile up a mob who hear half a story and do not ever fully understand. Ignorance is bliss and, unfortunately, there is a lot of ignorance in this world.

Now, you're just fantasizing...

Or, could it be that YOU'VE only heard half the story and don't fully understand the law, and now YOU'RE all riled up (along with your "Don't Say Gay" mob)... You know, Ignorance, and all...