[renielarson]

Oh Grumpy

You missed my point completely. I was only thinking about residents who might have a married child with more than 2 children. You know, that is possible, right?

However, I agree that if there is a twosome retired Villages couple then 8 passes would, in most cases, suffice.

Smile Grumpy... ;D...life is too short!

[GMONEY]

I for the sake of things can believe all the hype over Bison Valley. Me my wife and 2 kids live there. we both work for The Villages. i do not getting to use any of The Villages amenities. And no we are not required to pay the fees either. Yes we can ride on the cart path that exits out of Bison Valley and use the other ones. I dont complain when i see nothing but Golf Carts from The Villages up and down our roads, or Villagers riding thru our nieghborhood all the time. I went to my uncovered mailbox to get my mail and caught a couple letting their dog poo by our mailbox and walking off not picking it up. i followed them down 101 and stopped them as they were going into summerhill. asked them to pick up the poo. Bottom line we get along, most of The Villagers that come into Bison Valley are very friendly and stop and talk. We love The Villages and enjoy this area. P.S.

[Cassie325]

G~~ welcome to TOTV and welcome to The villages...I am glad you are here! this is a wonderful place to live and Bison valley is beautiful! We almost bought in there....you will here in some of my posts that I have a child as well...we just happen to have set up different circumstances....

Since you don't have a pool....we have one in our apartment complex that I am sure I can let your family use. They really don't mind as long as you have a gate key....and are on your best behavior...LOL

I love that employees of TV's can live and work in the most beautiful place in the world!

[GMONEY]

Thanks Cassie325.. it is a beautiful place here. Most people dont realized just how good they got it here as compared to alot of other places. I love it in Bison Valley, nice to be close to work and the kids go to the Charter School. i have talke to most in BV, they dont use The Villages amenities whatsoever. other than the golf cart paths. But most who live in BV are employed with The Villages directly, or Villages residents that moved there. As the Saying goes, "Great day to be in The Villages".

[Cassie325]

Well I would love to come meet everyone one of these days...if you don't mind driving through the neighborhood! I think it is great that you are here. I would have bought in bison Valley in a second if they told us there would be some amenities!

I am envious of your ability to send your kids to the charter school...it is a wonderful AMENITY for employees of TV's...

I still work but work from home for another company. There really aren't any jobs here that would pay as much...unless of course I get some sort of new certification or degree....and well school would get in the way of my social life!!

How old are your kids? My daughter is 11...either they can be friends or in a year or so she can babysit!!

It is and always is a beautiful day in TV's. PS....I am only in my 30's...and I love it as much as you do it seems! Personally I think it is heaven on earth...and why wouldn't everyone want to live here!!! I am glad we are able to....

[Cliff]

I am not a member of the Focus Group but I did attend the meeting on Thursday. The first thing I was told was that, because I did not attend the first two meetings, I would not be entitled to speak on their subject of the in-area guest pass (subject of the day for this meeting). I had to sit on the side of the room and keep my mouth shut. It very quickly became obvious why the group voted to not allow any new participants. If you think confusion reigns on this thread, you should have attended the meeting as I did. There are members who have multiple in-area guest passes and want to keep them no matter what happens. There are people who have never once used an in-area guest pass and think that they are being robbed each month when they pay their amenity fee. Mr Rohan tried to keep the peace and keep people on the subject of the day but he had one heck of a difficult time. One gentleman almost got into a fight with another man sitting at a table behind him. Typical TOTV tempers. Forget all about what the rules are right now because the ultimate recommendation of the group is going to be made to the next higher committee and the developer that the in-area guest pass should be shortened to 30 USES or 30 days per year. Just about everyone on the group agreed that the passes would continue to be issued to only children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren, and spouses. No non relatives. These meetings will be going on for months as they are going to tackle one subject at a time concerning guest passes. It was difficult not being able to express my personal opinions on the subject of in-area guest passes but I did find it interesting to observe the discussion (fight). One thing is very obvious. There are people to presently take advantage of the in-area guest pass formula and they want to continue to take advantage of the pass. Some feel it is cheaper for their grown children to live outside TV and not have to pay the monthly amenity fees but still be able to use the pools, golf courses, and other recreation facilities. The stipulation is that the resident of TV must accompany the guest at all times. So one of the guests can't go to play golf while the other guests go to a family pool with the resident. The guest must be with the resident. That requirement will probably never be changed.

[Cassie325]

Cliff....thank you for posting this information...I was hoping someone was able to attend. I am glad I didn't go if no one else was allowed to speak! Thanks so much!

[graciegirl]

Forget all about what the rules are right now because the ultimate recommendation of the group is going to be made to the next higher committee and the developer that the in-area guest pass should be shortened to 30 USES or 30 days per year.
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This sounds pretty good. What do you think? Am I missing something here?

[alemorkam]

Not only do Bison Valley people use our pools, they also have golf cart access to the villages. They can use their golf carts to run around the villages using golf cart paths, many of which are maintained using our amenity fees. Now people are using golf carts to access the Villages from Parkwood, which is just down the street from Bison Valley. Does know the regulations concerning this?

[GMONEY]

Originally Posted by alemorkam

Not only do Bison Valley people use our pools, they also have golf cart access to the villages. They can use their golf carts to run around the villages using golf cart paths, many of which are maintained using our amenity fees. Now people are using golf carts to access the Villages from Parkwood, which is just down the street from Bison Valley. Does know the regulations concerning this?

This I can tell you from living there. There are a few people in Bison that have Golf Carts, and yes there is a Cart access for us. Originally built for families of Village employees. The only people that go to the pools in TV from Bison Valley are those that have Family that are Village residents. There are a few of those that have parents that have been living in The Villages for a long time. That is about it. Most of us are tired of hearing that we all use your stuff, grow up. Educate yourself as to who does what.

And yes Parkwood residents do drive their carts down cr-101 on the sidewalk and thru our place. we have complained to the HOA also on this with no luck. we dont like it either. We hate having them flying around our place also.

[Avista]

My family lives out of state. I always get them guest passes when they visit. If they lived near The Villages, I would hope they could visit all facilities as my guest. As long as a Villages resident must accompany their guest who lives near by, I see no harm.

[Army Guy]

Originally Posted by Avista

My family lives out of state. I always get them guest passes when they visit. If they lived near The Villages, I would hope they could visit all facilities as my guest. As long as a Villages resident must accompany their guest who lives near by, I see no harm.

Ok, let me wade in to this discussion.......
I find the last 2 lines of the above quote, totally wrong. A guest according to Webster, is "a person who receives hospitality of another person while visiting".
If family is "living" near TV and using OUR amenities that WE are paying for regularly as is implied that is WRONG! They are not "visiting". The intent is, as an example, my family lives in NJ, they stop by for a visit while in FL on a trip and I want to take my Dad and play some bocce, that is the intent. Not that they live near, pay nothing, and use facilities, REGUARDLESS if a TV Owner is with them or not. That according to Webster is "stealing, fraud, etc." And yes there should be a limit and 30 days seems fair.
I am sorry if MHO offends anyone, but being military for 30+ years I follow rules to the reg and intent.
Ok, I am off my soap box now!

Army Guy

[otherbruddaDarrell]

Ditto Army guy

[MelZ]

Originally Posted by Army Guy

Ok, let me wade in to this discussion.......
I find the last 2 lines of the above quote, totally wrong. A guest according to Webster, is "a person who receives hospitality of another person while visiting".
If family is "living" near TV and using OUR amenities that WE are paying for regularly as is implied that is WRONG! They are not "visiting". The intent is, as an example, my family lives in NJ, they stop by for a visit while in FL on a trip and I want to take my Dad and play some bocce, that is the intent. Not that they live near, pay nothing, and use facilities, REGUARDLESS if a TV Owner is with them or not. That according to Webster is "stealing, fraud, etc." And yes there should be a limit and 30 days seems fair.
I am sorry if MHO offends anyone, but being military for 30+ years I follow rules to the reg and intent.
Ok, I am off my soap box now!

Army Guy

Army Guy speaks for me also

[chuckinca]

Originally Posted by Army Guy

Ok, let me wade in to this discussion.......
I find the last 2 lines of the above quote, totally wrong. A guest according to Webster, is "a person who receives hospitality of another person while visiting".
If family is "living" near TV and using OUR amenities that WE are paying for regularly as is implied that is WRONG! They are not "visiting". The intent is, as an example, my family lives in NJ, they stop by for a visit while in FL on a trip and I want to take my Dad and play some bocce, that is the intent. Not that they live near, pay nothing, and use facilities, REGUARDLESS if a TV Owner is with them or not. That according to Webster is "stealing, fraud, etc." And yes there should be a limit and 30 days seems fair.
I am sorry if MHO offends anyone, but being military for 30+ years I follow rules to the reg and intent.
Ok, I am off my soap box now!

Army Guy

So - it's fine to play bocce with your dad if he is visiting from New Jersey but not Ok if he is visiting from Leesburg.


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