[sandybill2]

Originally Posted by billethkid

The in area annual passes are (were?) intended to accommodate TV family members that live with a 50 mile radius of TV.

Family from anywhere outside the 50 mile limit can get as many 30 day passes as they can use up. So the spirit and intention of the in area pass was for family members of TV residents. And if you have family in the area it most likely makes sense.

Some home work needs to be done to put the issue into a proper context. From what I understand (3rd hand) there were less than 500 in area passes throughout 2007. That would be about seven tenths of one percent of TV population spread across all the facilities in some distribution. Hardly an inundation of the facilities or am entities.

The bigger issue is the ongoing violation of the 30 day passes that numbers in the hundreds and thousands per month by being issued to almost any and all that know the rules and back into the answers for the passes. Add to that the number of folks who know which pools and rec centers that check ID and those that don't.

IMHO, the in area annual passes are not the problem! The lack of discipline in all the other passes and walk ins are the real problem.

BTK

BTK

Per Current guest ID Information facts/figures ----average number of in-area guest passes issued monthly---123------Active in-area guest ID cards as of July 3, 2008---1,358

[Muncle]

Just wanted to let y'all know that today I struck a blow against those no good, dirty, low class, non-amenity fee paying, bottom-feeding :edit: who live in Bison Valley and threaten our lifestyle and very existence. This afternoon, with no forewarning and without seeking their permission, I drove on their cart paths and multi-modal trails. I was going to make illicit use of their amenities, maybe swim, play shuffleboard, or sit in on a bridge game, but I couldn't find any.

Be warned, Bison Valley residents, this is just the first salvo in what could become an eternal conflict. I'll be back!!!

[renielarson]

Cassie aka Maria

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[Cassie325]

OH DARN!!! It was worth asking!!!

[elaineshere]

I do not live yet in the Villages but will be renting for a year as of this October. We are planning on looking to buy. The only thing that i don't think is fair is that if I have my Grandkids come and visit for a week or two in the Summer I would have to pay the $50 for each and the others that live near by get a year for FREE!!! That is not fair. They should have to pay the same guest pass fee that we have to pay for our grandkids to use the facilities.

[redwitch]

Elaine, if your grandkids are under 10, they're free, too.

[elaineshere]

I understand that if they are under 10 is free. I have 4 Grandsons from 10 to 15 so they would not be free. Of course I would only be taking 2 at a time. All 4 would be a bit too much I just don't understand just beacuse they live within 50 miles its free. And for grandkinds that woould just be using the facilities for maybe 2 weeks to a month tops have to pay. It just doesn't seem fair to those that get to spend a short time with their grandkids

[Cassie325]

Originally Posted by elaineshere

I do not live yet in the Villages but will be renting for a year as of this October. We are planning on looking to buy. The only thing that i don't think is fair is that if I have my Grandkids come and visit for a week or two in the Summer I would have to pay the $50 for each and the others that live near by get a year for FREE!!! That is not fair. They should have to pay the same guest pass fee that we have to pay for our grandkids to use the facilities.

Ok I promised myself that I would not get on this thread again...but now I am SO CONFUSED!!!! Since when does anyone pay for a guest pass???????

We have never paid for a guest pass....did I miss something?

[samhass]

Cassie, renters have the option of paying $50.00 for a guest pass to use the amenities.

[redwitch]

Cassie, a lot of times the pass fee is included in the rental fee. You just have to go pick it up (and sometimes not even that if the homeowner has a registered agent with TV).

[Cassie325]

Oh I see....so renters pay $50 per person per visit to use the amenities?????

[redwitch]

Yup. Even long-term renters like me have to pay this fee. I don't mind -- would much rather pay $50 once a year than have to be escorted everywhere by another TVer.

[Cassie325]

Red....is it $50 per year per person.....for a renter....then if you bring in a few guests...say 3 grandchildren....you pay $50 for each grandchild e very time you have them visit?

So if they visit 3 seperate weeks a year you pay $150 per year per grandchild?

[villages07]

Whoa folks...I think things have gotten confused.

Any village resident can get FREE guest passes for their visitors. The guest has to live outside the 50 mile radius. The guest is entitled to use the amenities (adult pool (if old enough), family pool, pickleball, tennis) but not the sports pools. The guest is entitled to play executive golf but must pay the appropriate guest green fee or trail fee. Essentially, they pay guest rates for things that have fees attached and are excluded from programs that are resident only. Guest passes are issued for up to 30 days.

A renter can "purchase" the resident ID from the owner of home (by going through the Villages process whereby the owner turns in his ID cards). There is a $50 fee for the owner to transfer his resident privileges to his renter(s). One $50 for all the renters. I am not sure of the time limit on this (e.g. you have a long term, permanent renter who stays in the house for 3 years...do they pay $50 each year or just once). This transfer now gives the renter ALL resident privileges.....no exec green fees; resident fees for all other activities, use of sports pools, entry to Katie Belles, etc. For someone who is renting in TV for a month or longer, this $50 investment will probably make sense.

Please don't confuse guest passes with resident transfer privileges.

[Mallory]

The Focus Group was scheduled to meet again last night (8/28). Did anyone on either side of this question attend and/or provide information?