[spring_chicken]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

We have a case in our neighborhood of Pinellas. I don't live in this villa area, but I do live in Pinellas and I am familiar with what the OP was describing. The reason all the rest of us around the area are familiar with this rental is that groups of young men come after dinner and dive into the Pinellas pool, often in shorts, and appear to have just finished work. They arrive in large pickup trucks. The Villages' pool monitors are aware of this and have told the young men they can't swim in the pool without passes. A villa has been rented to a construction boss and a number of workers are housed in the villa. I don't know the exact numeber, but the neighbor estimates at least eight young men in their twenties and thirties. Sometimes a van or a couple of pickup trucks drop them off at the villa in the evening and come back for them in the morning. One of the neighbors I spoke to said there were times he couldn't get his golf cart out of his driveway because the trucks and van blocked the street. Different people in the Villages have been contacted but no one has done anything about it. Don't be so hard on new posters just because you want everything perfect. It is not very nice. The OP reported a true case of a group of young workers being housed by their construction boss in a rental villa in The Villages.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by justjim

There are a couple of other Threads regarding rentals. It's pretty much the same song---sort of like the "poop threads". The Villages is a deed restricted community, however, there is nothing in your deed restrictions keeping the owner from renting your house by the day, week, month or year. It is what it is.

Many condo communities in Florida do have restrictions regarding rentals. Most that I am familiar with have a 3 month minimum. Again, that is not the case in The Villages.

We once had a condo with a 3 month minimum rental. One unit was owned by a family from The Netherlands. It was the largest family I ever saw (and I'm Italian.) Every week there was a different family group showing up. There is a way around every rule.

[maryanna630]

I personally do not like to see posters belittled and accused of being trolls. That is the end of any discussion. Other posters stated that there were issues with multiple renters in their neighborhoods. Usually there are zoning restrictions as well as deed restrictions that address the number of people allowed to rent at any one time. Also, many communities restrict "commercial" types of rentals in residential neighborhoods. I am rather concerned at the number of rentals here as opposed to owner occupied dwellings. Usually, there is a tipping point and then the community is not as desireable.
Many of you may not agree.....

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by dbussone

We once had a condo with a 3 month minimum rental. One unit was owned by a family from The Netherlands. It was the largest family I ever saw (and I'm Italian.) Every week there was a different family group showing up. There is a way around every rule.

Wow. Had a neighbor like that back at the North Palm Beach condo. The Scandinavian owner was a real estate agent. Guests would always claim to be relatives. We felt that they were clients being put up during house hunting expeditions.

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by photo1902

GG, not everyone spends every waking hour on this forum. Give the OP a chance to respond, if he or she will.

They won't. Just trolling to cause a concern.

[villagerjack]

Originally Posted by justjim

There are a couple of other Threads regarding rentals. It's pretty much the same song---sort of like the "poop threads". The Villages is a deed restricted community, however, there is nothing in your deed restrictions keeping the owner from renting your house by the day, week, month or year. It is what it is.

Many condo communities in Florida do have restrictions regarding rentals. Most that I am familiar with have a 3 month minimum. Again, that is not the case in The Villages.

A three month restriction would go a long way toward reducing property values BIG TIME.

[rivaridger1]

Interesting response. Come out, come out wherever you are ---- Come on, get real. Suggest you check with the management of The Village sales office at Lake Sumter Landing who we understand has been apprised of the situation and also the Recreation Dept. who has already dealt with one pool party and chased more then a few individuals out as a result. Okay, eight or nine young men piling into a pick up truck to go to work early every morning is not a " labor gang ". It is simply eight or nine or more young men piling into the back of a pick up truck every morning to go to work. You are also absolutely correct people can rent their homes to anyone and that is exactly what the folks at the rental division of the Villages Realty have evidently said.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by maryanna630

I personally do not like to see posters belittled and accused of being trolls. That is the end of any discussion. Other posters stated that there were issues with multiple renters in their neighborhoods. Usually there are zoning restrictions as well as deed restrictions that address the number of people allowed to rent at any one time. Also, many communities restrict "commercial" types of rentals in residential neighborhoods. I am rather concerned at the number of rentals here as opposed to owner occupied dwellings. Usually, there is a tipping point and then the community is not as desireable.
Many of you may not agree.....

maryanna you spoke my mind. I have tried to have a rationale discussion concerning rentals since I have been here because like you I too have a concern as to how it affects The Villages. Its clear that the profit motive motivates people to be innovative in how they get around restrictions. And its clear that some of those who rent will want a big bang for their buck. Its also likely that a marketing person here is good at deflection "artful dodgers" And while an owner has the right to rent to anyone for as long s/he likes one wonders as to how they get the right to assign their amenity rights to countless others. It is in my view a practice that goes against the very marketing claims of this development. specifically they said if you want the villages lifestyle pony up a premium for it. Here we now have a owner who was offered that same option passing along for a fee that premium to multiple (countless) non-residents and at other residents expense. so the next time a full time resident can't get that tee time or pickle ball court or rec center room ask yourself how many non residents have taken up your space. And one wonders exactly how many of those owners actually bought a house to live here?

The situation the OP speaks of his deplorable whether its one villa or several because if its one then tomorrow its two and so forth and so forth.

simply stated if the rules of this community are allowed to be violated then we will all suffer. Ask yourself is this the word picture you were told existed here? Many of us invested a good portion of our retirement savings for what we believed would be passed on to our heirs because we believed it was a good investment that would maintain its originality. In my view this is a legitimate concern I opine others can decide

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by maryanna630

I personally do not like to see posters belittled and accused of being trolls. That is the end of any discussion.

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[rockyisle]

For what it's worth, when we first came to TV, we rented a ranch home in Amelia for 6 months. Our neighbors greeted us with joy as the previous renters had been there for a year. They were described as a couple of construction workers who made the house their party house. Big drinking parties every night - drunk and unconscious men on their lawn, etc. I can attest that they had a keg cooler in the house (removed before we moved in). Neighbors said they called the police and TV folks about them each and every week. Police would come, roust them out - nothing changed. Landlord didn't care - rent was coming in just fine.

I think the hidden point the OP was making is that TV is "sold" as a 55+ retirement community. What is never said is the fact that anyone of any age over _______ (moving target) can purchase or rent a home and live here as long as they don't have kids under the age of ____ (also a moving target). I know our mindset was of people of like ages living all around us. Rentals would be filled with people of like ages...

That's just not the reality of TV. And by not complaining about rentals that seem out of control, we make that our new normal. For those of you who are deriding the OP for complaining, I'm guessing you'd be the first and the loudest if it was happening in your neighborhood.

Just my thoughts.... worth almost nothing.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by rockyisle

For what it's worth, when we first came to TV, we rented a ranch home in Amelia for 6 months. Our neighbors greeted us with joy as the previous renters had been there for a year. They were described as a couple of construction workers who made the house their party house. Big drinking parties every night - drunk and unconscious men on their lawn, etc. I can attest that they had a keg cooler in the house (removed before we moved in). Neighbors said they called the police and TV folks about them each and every week. Police would come, roust them out - nothing changed. Landlord didn't care - rent was coming in just fine.

I think the hidden point the OP was making is that TV is "sold" as a 55+ retirement community. What is never said is the fact that anyone of any age over _______ (moving target) can purchase or rent a home and live here as long as they don't have kids under the age of ____ (also a moving target). I know our mindset was of people of like ages living all around us. Rentals would be filled with people of like ages...

That's just not the reality of TV. And by not complaining about rentals that seem out of control, we make that our new normal. For those of you who are deriding the OP for complaining, I'm guessing you'd be the first and the loudest if it was happening in your neighborhood.

Just my thoughts.... worth almost nothing.

[PennBF]

I am betting the farm that the ones who don't see anything wrong with this own large homes and are not exposed to the problems short term, non restricted rentals bring to a community. I doubt they care about the one who, because of the nature of the community have no way to protect against the abuse. Am I wrong?

[bbbbbb]

Originally Posted by rivaridger1

When my wife and I first purchased our courtyard villa we knew all of the villa developments included rental properties and we thought some of those might be leased to full time residents and others during " the season " be rented to grandparents and couples on vacation with perhaps a few also being let to younger families. That was precisely the case until now.

What we did not bargain for was the rental villas being used as rented " bunk houses " for labor gangs consisting of 30 year old males all driving pick ups who are working either for the developer or the other commercial entities within the Villages area. That is exactly what is happening in our villa neighborhood and it is something the Village relator is probably not going to mention when trying to sell you a house.

Evidently some of the speculator owners do not care along with their rental agencies about this as long as the monthly rent check continues to arrive in the mail. This situation might exist with some of the less expensive designer home rentals as well.

We just keep watching the oil spots in the driveways of the units in question grow in size.

Thank you for the comment on Oil DRippings. We contacted the Villages Office, well, it seems no one cares. We have a beautiful place and why do we have to turn it into another La or Chicago. Leaking cars from anyone in the driveway should be a very big fine and towed away. Only if the management and only if the people want neat and tidy neighborhoods, hopefully, it may happen. In southern Cal. a Del Webb will or did, have rules. If you do not pull your car in the garage, you get a notice. If you do not close your garage door, they do it and will give you a notice. All of this is spelled out and it is not occupant driven, it is patrolled and monitored and it is the most clean and orderly and attractive place you have ever seen, but, it is in Cal. We could but will not have that here.
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[villagetinker]

I have no direct knowledge of some of the rental problems being described in the previous posts, however below is a direct quote from the VCDD website:

Residential Use Restrictions: Property must be devoted only to single-family residential use. Properties within the Subdivision are intended for residential use and no commercial, professional or similar activity requiring either maintaining an inventory, equipment or customer/client visits may be conducted in a Home or on a Homesite.

Please those of you that know of these situations, CALL community standards 352-751-3912 and explain the situation. If you CALL your complaint is anonymous.
Hope this helps.

[bbbbbb]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

If something that negative is being posted, it should be true and if it is true, the poster should show some evidence. Personally, if I was in his position and after consulting Community Standards, the situation was not rectified, I would place my home for sale without making any negative comments on a web site like this. I would let the market decide but now that the poster has identified What he considers deficiencies in his/her neighborhood, it is incumbent upon them to tell any prospective buyers of the deficiencies or face a lawsuit from his buyers.

So, I agree with Gracie on this and if the poster cannot come clean and show evidence of the complaints the Administrator should remove his post. Free speech does not mean we can demean others freely.

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Please be careful, when you want evidence, you are really running the risk of Exposure and retaliation. This control is best handled with the main office and Standards. They need to observe and take action if they want a beautiful place. If the employees of the Village, drive around and park along side each other, visiting, and if the management wants every person to expose themselves to retaliation, then there will be no progress or very little progress on this item. In one city, a person parked his car on the front lawn. There was nothing about this in the CC and Rs. Well a couple of persons complained and next thing, the offender drug up a couple of rusty old cars in provided by a friend. So take that folks !! The neighborhood could do nothing legally to stop the mess, just move away. It comes down to facing the problem, having a management group that cares, otherwise, you just spin your wheels. If you want to rationalize this or look the other way, (that is done here on this site), then you may see some real messes. Enough of that. Been there SEEN THAT THREE TIMES.