[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Is that the place targeted for the Moffitt Center? I have been mispelling Moffit. Central Florida Health Alliance (?!!)....Here in Cincinnati the names and "alliances" of hospitals keep being shifted around, it is so confusing, now Jewish hospital is owned by the Catholic something something. You have to be on your toes to know who is who and what is what.

Yes graciegirl, the cancer-care centers (The Villages and Leesburg) will be a partnership with Moffitt and the Central Florida Health Alliance which consists of Leesburg Regional Medical Center and The Villages Health System.

[BigLew]

Originally Posted by NJblue

I'll admit that I have only perused this discussion, and perhaps I missed it, but, is there any proof that Morse will make any money on this? As I understand it, Moffett is a non-profit out of Tampa. It sounds like Morse has agreed to donate a building to have Moffett come to TV. It also appears that Morse is throwing his PR machine behind a drive to get additional donations to buy the expensive equipment that is needed.

What I have failed to see so far, is the linkage between our donations for equipment, and profits for Morse. Unless Morse is some sort of behind-the-scenes "owner" of the Moffett Center, can't his donations of building and PR effort be just that - donations? To me it sounds more akin to a rich person saying he will make a huge donation to a charity to match smaller donations made by the general public. Were Danny Thomas' motivations put to such scrutiny for what he did for St. Judes?

then peruse more carefully because yes, you missed it. And to those who keep thinking that non profit means they don't make money, non profit does not mean that you can't give multimillion dollar bonuses to the board

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by BigLew

then peruse more carefully because yes, you missed it. And to those who keep thinking that non profit means they don't make money, non profit does not mean that you can't give multimillion dollar bonuses to the board

And...lest we miss the point here. We will have a cancer center associated with Moffit that we don't have to drive to Tampa to use.

When it is your life you are talking about, you want the best treatment money can buy.

And hoping not to be insensitive to your post Lew, I do care that people aren't goudging me, but I expect for money to be made on most things I use.

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by BigLew

then peruse more carefully because yes, you missed it. And to those who keep thinking that non profit means they don't make money, non profit does not mean that you can't give multimillion dollar bonuses to the board

OK, maybe my perusal skills are not as good as yours, but other than allegations that Morse will make money on this, is there any proof that he will. Even if Moffett makes money, does that mean that Morse will make money? Please point to the specific post that proves this point.

[barb1191]

Originally Posted by NJblue

OK, maybe my perusal skills are not as good as yours, but other than allegations that Morse will make money on this, is there any proof that he will. Even if Moffett makes money, does that mean that Morse will make money? Please point to the specific post that proves this point.

The developer is not donating the building, he's leasing the building to Moffit et al. Leasing is obviously big profits to the developer. Just to clarify is all this means to me and not to belittle the developer.

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by barb1191

The developer is not donating the building, he's leasing the building to Moffit et al. Leasing is obviously big profits to the developer. Just to clarify is all this means to me and not to belittle the developer.

In which post was this established? Depending upon the terms, leasing may or may not be big profits. Unless you are privy to the contract, you really can't tell how profitable it may be. But, how does this translate to profits for the developer for the equipment that is to be donated? Isn't that the crux of the argument here? That is, some question why they should donate for the purchase of the equipment if the developer will be making money on the use of the equipment.

[Chi-Town]

Here is a link to an article from the Daily Commercial which is a newspaper that serves Lake and Sumter Counties. Pretty detailed information.

http://www.dailycommercial.com/local...073010Moffitt-

[SALYBOW]

I am glad to read all the new info on this issue. When I thought of the Moffitt Center as a for profit treatment center, I felt that asking the residents to chip in was a bit much, especially when you divide $6.4 million by 80,000. Coming from a condo assn. I was afraid it might be an assessment. Now I learned that there is a foundation being established and events are being planned to raise the money. This is a legitimate, in fact an intelligent way to raise the money.
I may be in the minority that feels that if the Morse family earned their money by legitimate means, I feel no envy. America was founded as a capatalistic economy. I am so pleased that they created rhis type of lifestyle for us, and they keep it affordable for most, that I don't begrudge them a dime. I imagine since the toll that cancer has taken on their family this project is very close to their hearts.
In Cincinnati I worked with The Tri Health foundation to improve patient care in many areas. I will gladly do what I can here as well. Cincinnati also has a family that was in to every thing and made money hand over fist. This family also does many altruistic projects. I don't know of anyone who holds it against them that they are all on the richest people in Cincy list every year.
I thank God often for people who share their wealth for the common good. OK, off my soap box.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by SALYBOW

I am glad to read all the new info on this issue. When I thought of the Moffitt Center as a for profit treatment center, I felt that asking the residents to chip in was a bit much, especially when you divide $6.4 million by 80,000. Coming from a condo assn. I was afraid it might be an assessment. Now I learned that there is a foundation being established and events are being planned to raise the money. This is a legitimate, in fact an intelligent way to raise the money.
I may be in the minority that feels that if the Morse family earned their money by legitimate means, I feel no envy. America was founded as a capatalistic economy. I am so pleased that they created rhis type of lifestyle for us, and they keep it affordable for most, that I don't begrudge them a dime. I imagine since the toll that cancer has taken on their family this project is very close to their hearts.
In Cincinnati I worked with The Tri Health foundation to improve patient care in many areas. I will gladly do what I can here as well. Cincinnati also has a family that was in to every thing and made money hand over fist. This family also does many altruistic projects. I don't know of anyone who holds it against them that they are all on the richest people in Cincy list every year.
I thank God often for people who share their wealth for the common good. OK, off my soap box.

Sal, You are a treasure. I am heading down that way to hug you on the tenth of October.

[Number 6]

Way back in post #1 I thought that Mr. Morse was going to truly devleop the cancer center to avoid CFHA having to file a CON. Now I just don't know, and CFHA is not replying to my requests for information. By develop, I mean finance and own the facility. He would therefor be able to bill and collect patient revenue. If the demographics are what I think they are, it is a very profitible enterprise. If he is, in fact, leasing space to CFHA and they are the owners, that is a different story somewhat. Mr. Morse will be able to collect rent (at fair market value) and whe will turn a fair profit. No problem there. If the equipment is donated to CFHA, then they will save about $125,000 per month in expenses. The center will be very profitable for CFHA. I do notice that the developer of the Leesburg facility is not asking for any donations as of yet.
I have not heard of CFHA filing for a CON (certificate of need) for either facillity.
Let's just see how this plays out.

[Russ_Boston]

I said I wasn't going to comment further on this but..


Huh? You don't really think Morse is collecting patient revenue do you? Moffitt is the cancer center (not their first rodeo). Morse is the lessor, nothing more. Moffitt is the lessee.

I'd be astonished if it were anything different.

[SALYBOW]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Sal, You are a treasure. I am heading down that way to hug you on the tenth of October.

Can't wait to finally meet you.

[Number 6]

Russ, not to be hypertechnical, but Moffitt is not the lessee, CFHA is, I think. But that is really my question. I wish someone would make this clear. As I said, I thought they were going the private development route to avoid having to file a CON. We shall see.

[Russ_Boston]

Yes I stand corrected. I think it is a joint venture.