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If a dealer accepts YOUR OFFER with little or no haggling YOU PAID TOO MUCH no matter how much research you did.

Every "sucker" who overpays only helps you to get a better deal.

Don't "feel sorry" for someone who overpaid because it's THEIR fault for not asking someone (friend or family) to help or not doing their "due diligence." Also, some people willingly pay sticker price just because they don't want to hassle and have plenty of money so as to not to give a damn. I have someone in my "extended" family like that. They have so much money they don't know what to do with it. That doesn't mean they were gouged it means they don't care. They do get VERY WELL taken care of by the dealers .... and no, they don't buy "luxury" cars.
Exactly. Anyone who gets ripped off buying a car is just lazy. Even if youre there and run into a price youre not sure about, so? Go home, research then go back. Are you that desperate for a car that you have to buy on first visit? Do you buy a house in one day, first visit without doing some research? (Stupid question, I guess, because Im sure some do and then whine about the outcome). You are in charge of your own life. If you get ripped? Well, sorry. Thats kinda your fault
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I bought a new SUV from the "J" dealer last March...the dealer add-on sticker included almost $3,000 of extra stuff (mats, under coating, paint protection, wheel locks, etc). I told them I didn't want any of the extra stuff and to remove them. He said it would cost him more to remove them so just left everything in place without charging extra. They gave me a very fair value for my trade-in and I was pleased with the negotiated out the door price. I did have to go through the whole salesman/sales manager song and dance and was about ready to bail out when they finally made it happen. Patience, persistence, and homework!!!
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On April 24th I sold them my Honda Van and they assured me that after paying off my loan balance I would receive a check in about 5-7 business days. A week went by and I decided to check with Honda Finance. They did not receive payment. When I went back to Jenkins to ask why they hadn't sent payment, they couldn't find any paperwork showing they had purchased my vehicle even though my van was posted for sale on their website. They made me fill out everything all over again. By this time my payment to the finance company was past due. Another week passed and still no money from Jenkins. Their Manager told me that they were waiting for the title and release of lien. Furious, I complained to Honda Corporate Headquarters. After calling Jenkins they discovered that the dealer not only had the title in hand but had sold my van without paying me. Finally, on May 17, almost a month after my first visit and numerous phone calls between Honda Corporate, American Honda Finance and the Better Business Bureau I was paid. If you're thinking of buying a Honda I strongly suggest not using Jenkins.
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I know two senior villages that were grossly taken advantage of at a local chain of car dealers. I won't mention names as this also may apply to other dealers. It does begin with a "J". In both instances the dealers sold them a new car for several thousand dollars above the MSRP or Government Monroney Label. These dealers add a second sticker to the window with options they added or will add that are unnecessary and overpriced. When you go to a dealer do your homework. Get and estimate of your trade in value at Kelley Blue Book | New and Used Car Price Values, Expert Car Reviews, Carvana.com or a Carmax. Only negotiate from the Manufacturer Label. If the dealer won't, find one that will. When shopping for a used car check Kelley Blue Book | New and Used Car Price Values, Expert Car Reviews, Autotrader.com or Car Gurus.com
All the dealers do it. Do your homework and if your not computer savvy enough to look it up enlist the help of a friend or neighbor. Bring your son, daughter or younger neighbor when you do the deal.
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Old 01-25-2021, 08:04 AM
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Your advice of course is well founded and easily documented. It would be greatly appreciated if you would share the dealerships. If you have a bad landscaper or painter who took you to task would you not be emboldened to name names. if bad enough to write about it should be bad enough to name
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I know two senior villages that were grossly taken advantage of at a local chain of car dealers. I won't mention names as this also may apply to other dealers. It does begin with a "J". In both instances the dealers sold them a new car for several thousand dollars above the MSRP or Government Monroney Label. These dealers add a second sticker to the window with options they added or will add that are unnecessary and overpriced. When you go to a dealer do your homework. Get and estimate of your trade in value at Kelley Blue Book | New and Used Car Price Values, Expert Car Reviews, Carvana.com or a Carmax. Only negotiate from the Manufacturer Label. If the dealer won't, find one that will. When shopping for a used car check Kelley Blue Book | New and Used Car Price Values, Expert Car Reviews, Autotrader.com or Car Gurus.com
I bought a car from a multi-store dealership whose name begins with a J. No issues. If a man or woman buys a car in their senior years and “gets taken”, it is their own fault. With 40 or 50 years experience buying vehicles, there is no comprehensible reason to overpay. That is just being stupid. We all need to remember dealerships require the P word, PROFIT. The more the better. Every salesman and every sales manager is rated by two things, sales numbers and profit. Every auto buyer needs to remember that simple fact.
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:56 AM
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When buying a car remember there are three negotiations going on. The value of your trade, the price you'll pay for the new car, and the interest rate if your financing. Then when you go to the finance desk, buy nothing, got it? Buy nothing. I sold cars for a while at a friend's Dad's Ford Dealership when I went to college, and I was well trained. The salesman is not your friend. Do your pre-buy research, and remember the three things your negotiating. And do not buy any extras from the finance MGR.
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When test driving a used car from a dealer and they insist that they HOLD your drivers license while you are on the test drive, do not allow it.
Just tell them you want to hold the dealership owners drivers license while they evaluate you’re trade in.

You know why they want the drivers license? So while you out driving they can bring up you private information.
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I know two senior villages that were grossly taken advantage of at a local chain of car dealers. I won't mention names as this also may apply to other dealers. It does begin with a "J". In both instances the dealers sold them a new car for several thousand dollars above the MSRP or Government Monroney Label. These dealers add a second sticker to the window with options they added or will add that are unnecessary and overpriced. When you go to a dealer do your homework. Get and estimate of your trade in value at Kelley Blue Book | New and Used Car Price Values, Expert Car Reviews, Carvana.com or a Carmax. Only negotiate from the Manufacturer Label. If the dealer won't, find one that will. When shopping for a used car check Kelley Blue Book | New and Used Car Price Values, Expert Car Reviews, Autotrader.com or Car Gurus.com
The key to buying cars (at dealers) is apparent in these replies...... #1 Do your homework before any negotiating. #2 Set your bottom line price and be prepared to walk out.
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I know two senior villages that were grossly taken advantage of at a local chain of car dealers. I won't mention names as this also may apply to other dealers. It does begin with a "J". In both instances the dealers sold them a new car for several thousand dollars above the MSRP or Government Monroney Label. These dealers add a second sticker to the window with options they added or will add that are unnecessary and overpriced. When you go to a dealer do your homework. Get and estimate of your trade in value at Kelley Blue Book | New and Used Car Price Values, Expert Car Reviews, Carvana.com or a Carmax. Only negotiate from the Manufacturer Label. If the dealer won't, find one that will. When shopping for a used car check Kelley Blue Book | New and Used Car Price Values, Expert Car Reviews, Autotrader.com or Car Gurus.com
Use a dealers internet sales desk. You do all the info exchange via your computer and focus only on the out the door price, the one you already have researched. There are dealers within an hour to ninety minute drive that will give you the price you are looking for and even deliver the vehicle you purchased. I have bought my last three cars this way and in my opinion the individual you are dealing with via their internet sales group is more accommodating and more importantly you’re not sitting there for four hours
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Old 01-25-2021, 10:36 AM
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Whenever I buy a new vehicle, the first thing I tell the salesman is that that added sticker next to the window sticker is BS.....just a ploy to add money to their pot. And if they want to sell that vehicle to me, then disregard all that crap that they added. They always agree.
I've been in TV for four years, and have purchased four new vehicles in that time, and have never had a problem. BTW, it wasn't the "J" dealership.
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Old 01-25-2021, 10:58 AM
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There's an old book named "Cars" that describes the buying and selling process to a T. Well worth reading if you can find it. Talks about the ins and outs and the processes used by salespersons and dealers/owners.
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RULE OF THUMB I have been using when buying a car for many years.
Go down to the Dealership to Make your BEST DEAL on any one of the last 3 days of the MONTH.
Dealerships have to meet a quota by the end of the month to get deals and bonuses from the auto manufacturers.
Bring the title to your car and make your best deal you will be driving home in a new car that same day or the next day.
Guaranteed to work every time!!!!
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Hyundia of Central Florids upfront price no add on stuff no dealer fees
On Hwy 50 worth the drive bought my car last December 2019
In Clermount
Great service after the sale
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I have a friend who is a car dealer and no, I wouldn’t buy a car from him. I will say he has given me some good advice when I purchase a new vehicle from another dealer. 😊
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