[chuckinca]

Originally Posted by tony

i should have known uujudy would complete that phrase.

best laugh this week!!!

[chuckinca]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Danged if I know. I think that someone was pointing out that they lived REALLY close to the accident.(A chip shot) I am not there but I am really interested in what is going on and The Daily Fun didn't give us much info.

In this thread we have talked about who knows, who cares, who is driving right, who is plugging in correctly and who wants to go to the sheriff for info.

I am so confused.

Blonds are excused.


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[Dougout]

Having spent 27 years in law enforcement I think that I can shed some light on all of this. The most probable reason for the number of accidents in the area is that the average driver here is old. I have investigated countless accidents where seniors drive into the side of malls, buildings and into parked cars. I have also observed some contractors here operating in a fashion less than reasonable or prudent.

From the law enforcement viewpoint this was a rather minor accident which did not involve serious injury or death. The insurance company of the white pickup truck will be responsible to pay out the damage. In the department where I worked the investigating officer of the accident was required to fill out a news release which included all operators info, circumstances of the accident etc.

All media by law had the right to the information and could do what they desired with it. All news media has bias in what and how news is reported. Some local newspapers wanted all the information on local people and others were only interested in fatalities

Regarding the working of radar on Morse and Buena Vista...be careful what you wish for. Very often those who had made the complaint are the first to be caught in the resulting crackdown.

[tpop1]

Just drove thru circle at Buena Vista and Tall Trees La.

I was struck by the thought that the driver who went thru the pump house earlier this week was lucky he/she did not try going thru the brick pump house in that circle.

Repair would have consisted of a power washing!!

[elevatorman]

The pump house that is damaged was block construction With siding on the outside.

[tpop1]

Faked out again.......Never mind.....

[memason]

I found this "never before seen footage" of the accident in the roundabout...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj_1KcGLwFQ[/ame]

YIKES!

[faithfulfrank]

I assume that video was not the same accident that everyone is speaking about. As Tony said, well over 100 posts on this incident, and not one picture?

There are some folks who are not currently down there that might like to see what all of the fuss is about. I'm not really in that group since my home is not right there, but I guess I would have thought that someone would have posted a picture...it is not that difficult........

Frank

[memason]

No, the video is NOT the same roundabout accident, as everyone is discussing. I thought it was funny and it seemed to be appropriate for this thread....

But, I agree, you would think a couple photos would have been forthcoming....

[Bogie Shooter]

Not really that much to see....just a building with a big hole. No big deal at all.

[zcaveman]

How many traffic circles in TV are that big?

That is the real problem here. The traffic circles are not designed for two lane / three quarter turn left lane exits.

When I moved here in 2001 we only had the circles at Springdale, El Camino Real/Buena Vista and El Camino Real/Morse Blvd. We never had a problem. Evey one stayed in the right lane and got off at their exit. They are all small circles and do not really rate the left lane / right lane scenario.

In 2005 or thereabouts, the newbies had a different idea and everything got screwed up. Everyone thought they were more experienced in round abouts and we had to change the rules.

But I do not think that the new rules are not right for our community.

I Will never make a right turn from a left lane and FEEL SAFE. It is against all of the rules of traffic that I was taught. Therefore, I will stay in the right hand lane and go through three exits to get out of the exit. I will either keep my eye on the people in the left hand lane or straddle the line so I am not cut off.

I am easy to recognize. I am the motorized cart with the yellow flag. Just kidding.

Z

[rockaway]

Originally Posted by zcaveman

How many traffic circles in TV are that big?

That is the real problem here. The traffic circles are not designed for two lane / three quarter turn left lane exits.

When I moved here in 2001 we only had the circles at Springdale, El Camino Real/Buena Vista and El Camino Real/Morse Blvd. We never had a problem. Evey one stayed in the right lane and got off at their exit. They are all small circles and do not really rate the left lane / right lane scenario.

In 2005 or thereabouts, the newbies had a different idea and everything got screwed up. Everyone thought they were more experienced in round abouts and we had to change the rules.

But I do not think that the new rules are not right for our community.

I Will never make a right turn from a left lane and FEEL SAFE. It is against all of the rules of traffic that I was taught. Therefore, I will stay in the right hand lane and go through three exits to get out of the exit. I will either keep my eye on the people in the left hand lane or straddle the line so I am not cut off.

I am easy to recognize. I am the motorized cart with the yellow flag. Just kidding.

Z

So let me get this straight. You admit to breaking driving laws since 2001.
You won't make a right turn from the left lane which is correct if you go
3/4 around but you will make a left turn from the right lane which is
illegal on any type of road, roundabout or straight.

By the way the "Newbies" did not change anything. Just pick up the
pamphlet at TV office that the police have put out you may learn something.

You say you stay in the right lane and keep an eye on the left lane so
you will not be cut off. So I guess in your mind it's ok for you to cut
everyone else off.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by zcaveman

How many traffic circles in TV are that big?

That is the real problem here. The traffic circles are not designed for two lane / three quarter turn left lane exits.

When I moved here in 2001 we only had the circles at Springdale, El Camino Real/Buena Vista and El Camino Real/Morse Blvd. We never had a problem. Evey one stayed in the right lane and got off at their exit. They are all small circles and do not really rate the left lane / right lane scenario.

In 2005 or thereabouts, the newbies had a different idea and everything got screwed up. Everyone thought they were more experienced in round abouts and we had to change the rules.

But I do not think that the new rules are not right for our community.

I Will never make a right turn from a left lane and FEEL SAFE. It is against all of the rules of traffic that I was taught. Therefore, I will stay in the right hand lane and go through three exits to get out of the exit. I will either keep my eye on the people in the left hand lane or straddle the line so I am not cut off.

I am easy to recognize. I am the motorized cart with the yellow flag. Just kidding.

Z

That is exactly what I've been saying and exactly how I feel about these roundabouts.

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by rockaway

So let me get this straight. You admit to breaking driving laws since 2001.
You won't make a right turn from the left lane which is correct if you go
3/4 around but you will make a left turn from the right lane which is
illegal on any type of road, roundabout or straight.

First of all there where no "rules" in 2001. Everyone stayed in the right lane and exited from the right lane.

At what point did I say I would make a left turn from the right lane? That would be insane.

[herbaru]

So who yields to who when the right lane is continuing on to go straight through and the left lane makes a right turn?