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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer

Have you been or are you an employee of the Developer. It certainly appears so. How can you blindly support someone who will not answer the residents in a prompt manner. If there is a just reason, let the Developer come forth with the explanation. Those folks who were using the path deserve those answers, not providing answers is in my opinion telling those concerned residents to "go to hell"..

Warren Kiefer: I have been called a lot of things in my life but an employee of the Developer has not been one of them. If you have read any of my previous 4,000 plus posts you would have recognized that I do not view the Developer from a personal perspective keeping everything business.

And I am not blind to anything. I explained some posts ago that the Developer moved the Fitness Center without advanced notice leaving people without an indoor pool. they along with the POA petitioned but lost their plea.

I am no going against villagers. I am simply explaining that the Developer knows exactly what he is doing and why. He is not in the habit of explaining his decisions and will only relent when he sees it fits his purposes.

Essentially what I am trying to explain is that all this commotion about the wall by villagers well is for naught and villagers may as well be (forget the pun) banging their heads against a wall.

Some of the people complaining live elsewhere and I suspect their complaints are self serving in that it probably prevents them for using our privately financed cart pathways.

When we visit their developments (Spruce Creek, Stone Crest, etc) we are required to drive our cars to their security gates and check in. do we not deserve the same courtesy ?

so for this reason I am glad about the building of this wall and hope that any access to our pathway from the public be blocked.

If outsiders are using an LSV then all they need for the most part are our public roads. In fact since LSV's can exceed 19.9 mph they ought not be allowed on our cart paths. so how do you see my view of protecting our cart paths being against villagers

Personal Bes Regards:

[champion6]

Originally Posted by Megardn

Looks like the Villages Tri County Medical (the new nursing home) owns that property according to Sumter County property appraiser and it's right on the county border line.
You can see it on the GIS map on the appraiser site.

Wait!!! The Villages Tricounty Medical is The Villages Regional Hospital, which includes TVRH East Campus. It is not "the new nursing home," which is actually HarborChase Assisted Living.

[VICAR OF DIBLEY]

Hello,

Not to sure how many people received this - we got this from the Village Van Service -


'Take Down The Wall' chanted in rally over 'Berlin Wall' put up over weekend

If you can not click on it to open it, please do a copy and paste.

[VICAR OF DIBLEY]

I just did a Google search, and hopefully you will no have to do a copy and paste.

'Take Down the Wall' protest - **************

[red tail]

Originally Posted by champion6

Wait!!! The Villages Tricounty Medical is The Villages Regional Hospital, which includes TVRH East Campus. It is not "the new nursing home," which is actually HarborChase Assisted Living.

who's on first?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by VICAR OF DIBLEY

I just did a Google search, and hopefully you will no have to do a copy and paste.

'Take Down the Wall' protest - **************

Here is the link.
Petitioners hope to remove 'Berlin Wall,' which many have called 'unAmerican' - **************

[Megardn]

Originally Posted by champion6

Wait!!! The Villages Tricounty Medical is The Villages Regional Hospital, which includes TVRH East Campus. It is not "the new nursing home," which is actually HarborChase Assisted Living.

I just assumed it was the NEW assisted home (I know abt assuming, lol) but it is owned by Tri County Medical. Check it out.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Megardn

Looks like the Villages Tri County Medical (the new nursing home) owns that property according to Sumter County property appraiser and it's right on the county border line.
You can see it on the GIS map on the appraiser site.

megardn - i think you might need to read thru the entire thread where the property lines, ownership, lack of building permits, etc have already been discussed and resolved...then jump back in with any suggestions you might have.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by jebartle

Sales of LSV's (Street Legals) or they could allow (as so many towns) crossing of roads with speed limits of 45 MPH or less...I've always said if pedestrians, bicycles and handicap scooters can cross, why not golf carts?????

LSVs are allowed to cross roads with speed limits of 45mph. If you are on Avenida Central you can cross 27/441 and proceed onto Griffin.

The problem is that to drive an LSV, you need a drivers license just like a car. That does not help the people who do not or cannot drive for one reason or another.

There is also the cost of insuring and registering and LSV which I understand is between $600 and $1000 along with improvements that need to be made to existing golf carts such as a sold windshield, seat belts and other necessary equipment in order to drive on streets where golf carts are not allowed.

LSVs are not the answer to this problem.

[Megardn]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

megardn - i think you might need to read thru the entire thread where the property lines, ownership, lack of building permits, etc have already been discussed and resolved...then jump back in with any suggestions you might have.

Well forgive me for saying anything.

[Mikeod]

Apologies if this has been posted before. I have read the entire thread and don't recall seeing this.

If I understand it correctly, the crux of the IRS dispute is whether the central districts qualify as a political entity, i.e., they answer to the residents and are not controlled by the developer. Since the area involved is controlled by the VCCDD, does this unilateral action without prior notice not essentially prove the IRS right?

However, could we win the battle over the wall, but lose the war vis-a-vis the IRS?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by mikeod

Apologies if this has been posted before. I have read the entire thread and don't recall seeing this.

If I understand it correctly, the crux of the IRS dispute is whether the central districts qualify as a political entity, i.e., they answer to the residents and are not controlled by the developer. Since the area involved is controlled by the VCCDD, does this unilateral action without prior notice not essentially prove the IRS right?

However, could we win the battle over the wall, but lose the war vis-a-vis the IRS?

Not controlled by VCDD.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Megardn

Well forgive me for saying anything.

don't take it that way, megardn. i was just making a suggestion. many have been made and listed but we never refuse a new one. don't run away - just come up with some new stuff.

[EdV]

Originally Posted by mikeod

Apologies if this has been posted before. I have read the entire thread and don't recall seeing this.

If I understand it correctly, the crux of the IRS dispute is whether the central districts qualify as a political entity, i.e., they answer to the residents and are not controlled by the developer. Since the area involved is controlled by the VCCDD, does this unilateral action without prior notice not essentially prove the IRS right?

However, could we win the battle over the wall, but lose the war vis-a-vis the IRS?

Good question Mike.

The key is to understand that Morse owns that little plot of land independently just like you or I could. As such, he can put up a fence in his back yard just as we could if we owned that property instead of him.

That too is why the VCCDD and any TV employees have been told to simply say they know nothing about it and it is on private property. Which is technically correct.

Of course, the fact that he clearly enhanced the property and allowed it to be used as paved and lighted golf cart path and that homes were sold by his various holding companies with this in place, may have many other legal ramifications. To be determined.

[kagney123]

Wow Lots of great information but still no answer as to why or who..we know what and when Saturday 3AM LOL

Gonna ask my "MLS" realtor, who lives on the historic side the reason for the wall......
I'll post whatever I find out....