[skip0358]

I'm not sticking up for anyone. Maybe the Moorse Family didn't put the wall up, so IF he didn't put it up he can't take it down or comment on it. Why don't you try and contact Gary Lester he seems to be the go to guy !!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

I never put much stock in the old "It's not that I got fired - it was the say they did it" theory. The bottom line is that you're out of work and you're very mad about it. Or in this case you run into a wall and have to find a way around it. The one thing we know is that they didn't spend money and time to put it up for no reason. The lands (most of them) on the other side of the wall don't belong to the TV development.

What if I wanted to make a path from Colony plaza over the Burke's BBQ only a few parcels away? Can't be done without going onto private property. Why would this Historic Path to private property be any different? By having that little outlet (where the wall is) the TV developer is basically saying "I invite all of you to bring your cart onto private property past our boundaries". Liability waiting to happen and I'll be that the issue is either future liability, or a current law suit for liability, or possible money grab by one of the private parties and Morse won't pay. You KNOW it's money.

Right, so if you show up for work one morning and all of your stuff is out on the sidewalk and when you go inside a receptionist says, "You don't work here anymore and I'm not allowed to say anything else" and you are not allowed to talk to any of your former superiors, you would feel exactly the same as if they sat you down and said, "We're very sorry, but the company is not doing well and we just can't afford to keep you here. (Or even, I'm sorry, but you're doing a terrible job and we are letting you go) Good luck in the future. You would feel exactly the same in those two situations? Is that what you're saying? If you were fired, you wouldn't feel that you were owed an explanation why?

That gate has been there, from what I now understand, for over twenty years. People have used it every day. People have made important life decisions based on that gate being there. And now, with no explanation it's just closed.

Like I said, if there is a good reason for it, I would be very disappointed and unhappy, but at least I would be able to understand.

Also the fact that it was done in this way and that no one from the Villages will give and explanation and have stated that they were told to say nothing by their superiors sounds at the very least a bit suspicious. If it were done for a good reason, it would have been made public. Sometimes silence speaks volumes.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by skip0358

I'm not sticking up for anyone. Maybe the Moorse Family didn't put the wall up, so IF he didn't put it up he can't take it down or comment on it. Why don't you try and contact Gary Lester he seems to be the go to guy !!

If he didn't put it up, he can't comment on it? He couldn't say, "I didn't put it up"? If he knows who did put it up, he couldn't say so?

The people at the assisted living facility posted on this very forum that they didn't put it up but they are looking into it.

[N44125]

Originally Posted by vitacr

I was there at 4pm today & signed a petition that is going around. Heard it has something to do with a feud between Mr. a the new assisted living building owner....................??????? Someone wrote graffiti on it "Mr Morse take down this wall" - it was painted over when found the next day. Look on Facebook - The Villages Book has it posted. I'm sure we'll hear a lot more on this - it affects too many people including Stonecrest folks.

Can you verify that the graffiti was indeed painted over? I tried going to FaceBook but that didn't work. Did TV paint it over or did the neighbors?

Although I am against the wall and feel that it was wrong and poorly / not communicated properly....I thought that the graffiti was 'childish' and not benefitting the cause.

Hopefully we'll gat an answer or resolve shortly........

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Well, from all the negative feelings about The Villages, it looks as though the real estate agents will be having a field day in getting new listings.

The sad thing is that the developer wouldn't be affected by that at all. In fact the more of that leave the more homes his sales agency sells and the more commission they make.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

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By having that little outlet (where the wall is) the TV developer is basically saying "I invite all of you to bring your cart onto private property past our boundaries". Liability waiting to happen and I'll be that the issue is either future liability, or a current law suit for liability, or possible money grab by one of the private parties and Morse won't pay. You KNOW it's money.

given that...i wonder why it took 20+ years to cancel the invitation.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

The sad thing is that the developer wouldn't be affected by that at all. In fact the more of that leave the more homes his sales agency sells and the more commission they make.

Well, I would just think that if there are so many unhappy residents and they are so angry at the tactics of the Developer that they would not want to stay in such a community. I am sure Stonecrest, Spruce Creek, or Plantation would be to their liking - and they could get more home for their money after selling and making a profit.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Could very well be. But why didn't someone come out and explain what's going on before it was done. At least the people that work over there wouldn't have been stuck on the wrong side on Saturday morning and people like my wife would have had to come back home and ask me to drive her to work on Sunday. We could have made plans and there wouldn't be all of this concern about it.

I'm not saying that a lot of people wouldn't been disappointed and unhappy about it, but at least we would know why it was done and we might have had some time to make alternative plans.

Here is why I believe it was done as it was done. Anyone with half a brain would know there would be a large out cry if they knew in advance the path would be closed. There is enough history on the path that there is a good legal case for not allowing the path to be closed under Florida Law. It would have been very easy to get an injunction against closing the path by a judge until the case worked its way through the court. All the time the path would remain open. Now close it immediately, get no permit to do so, and the path will remain closed while the whole thing works it way through the court system. How much money is everyone willing to spend to get the path open? How many years will it take?

[Hancle704]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I looked at the online county maps and it would appear as you say that the wall is very close to the county line. I am perplex as to why those businesses that I mention have addresses in Lady Lake.

Despite the fact that many of them are physically located in Sumter County, they have Lady Lake addresses because they are served by the Post Office located in Lady Lake which I'm sure you know is in Lake County.

[scres]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Right, so if you show up for work one morning and all of your stuff is out on the sidewalk and when you go inside a receptionist says, "You don't work here anymore and I'm not allowed to say anything else" and you are not allowed to talk to any of your former superiors, you would feel exactly the same as if they sat you down and said, "We're very sorry, but the company is not doing well and we just can't afford to keep you here. (Or even, I'm sorry, but you're doing a terrible job and we are letting you go) Good luck in the future. You would feel exactly the same in those two situations? Is that what you're saying? If you were fired, you wouldn't feel that you were owed an explanation why?

That gate has been there, from what I now understand, for over twenty years. People have used it every day. People have made important life decisions based on that gate being there. And now, with no explanation it's just closed.

Like I said, if there is a good reason for it, I would be very disappointed and unhappy, but at least I would be able to understand.

Also the fact that it was done in this way and that no one from the Villages will give and explanation and have stated that they were told to say nothing by their superiors sounds at the very least a bit suspicious. If it were done for a good reason, it would have been made public. Sometimes silence speaks volumes.

Well said!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Well, I would just think that if there are so many unhappy residents and they are so angry at the tactics of the Developer that they would not want to stay in such a community. I am sure Stonecrest, Spruce Creek, or Plantation would be to their liking - and they could get more home for their money after selling and making a profit.

It doesn't matter to the developer. When you sell your home at a profit someone is buying it and becoming a Villager. Not only that, but if the Properties of the Villages is involved in the sale, some of the commission ends up with the developer. Moving out may make you feel better, but it doesn't hurt the developer.

[Ceafolks]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

Here is why I believe it was done as it was done. Anyone with half a brain would know there would be a large out cry if they knew in advance the path would be closed. There is enough history on the path that there is a good legal case for not allowing the path to be closed under Florida Law. It would have been very easy to get an injunction against closing the path by a judge until the case worked its way through the court. All the time the path would remain open. Now close it immediately, get no permit to do so, and the path will remain closed while the whole thing works it way through the court system. How much money is everyone willing to spend to get the path open? How many years will it take?

As my wife would say..." I just hate it when you're right"...

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by N44125

Can you verify that the graffiti was indeed painted over? I tried going to FaceBook but that didn't work. Did TV paint it over or did the neighbors?

Although I am against the wall and feel that it was wrong and poorly / not communicated properly....I thought that the graffiti was 'childish' and not benefitting the cause.

Hopefully we'll gat an answer or resolve shortly........

I was there about four hours ago and the wall looks pristine. In fact when I first saw it, a large section of paint looked like it had peeled off. I'd like to know who painted it. That would probably give a pretty good indication of who put it up. I wonder if the fact that it was painted from the Villages side means anything?

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Well, I would just think that if there are so many unhappy residents and they are so angry at the tactics of the Developer that they would not want to stay in such a community. I am sure Stonecrest, Spruce Creek, or Plantation would be to their liking - and they could get more home for their money after selling and making a profit.

A little compassion wouldn't hurt - these are real people being affected by this unfortunate circumstance.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Has anyone on here contacted the president of POA or HOA today? Did you get any kind of response?