[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by OldManTime

Problem solved, thanks to the town of Lady Lake!

Ok, now that you have my attention, details please?

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by Peachie

So you meant, "will be able to get Wal-Mart, etc.?"

Yes, sorry about the typo. I should proof read my typing. I apologize for the misrepresentation.

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

Well here is the straight skinny on the Stonecrest vs Sruce Creek 441/27 crossing. There was some concern to the safety of the individuals that would be using the access road to get to Wal-Mart. The access road has some blind corners and people are not familiar with seeing Golf Carts on this road. There have been a number of fender benders on the road section that leads to the Stonecrest Gate and the crossing road. Cars coming off 441/27 into Stonecrest are a little speedy and may not be aware of the crossing traffic. A collision between an auto and a Golf Cart has the Auto winning every time. Some of the Stonecrest residents were also interested in getting access to the shopping on the West Side of 441/27 which would require access out of Spruce Creek's side gate. In turn Stonecrest would need to give them access to Stonecrest's direct Wal-Mart gates. The end result is Stonecrest approved Spruce Creek's usage of the access roads as far as I know. There are always people that complain no matter what happens. The bottom line is Stonecrest is very happy that Spruce Creek will not be able to get to Wal-Mart and the other shops on the East Side of 441/27 legally.

Sorry Steve you have wrong information, and its off topic to this thread.

[PennBF]

Artic Fox. I think one reason the gate was not important 10 years ago is because they had not built a rather sizable Assisted Living Home. Their (Assisted Living) building a cart path that would accomadate their clients and provide them with free unencumbered access to Blossom roads, cart path, and the Villages was a very clever move. Of course there are significant costs associated with opening up The Villages to the "outside" and the residents are ones who bear these costs. We even have controls over family and friends visitors.
Anyone can drive into The Villages and experience the life style but when it is suggested they become a pseudo residents without bearing any of the costs or worse have a better position than family and friends then it has gone too far. As I said, if it was the Developers intent to shut this all down and set up a controlled entrance through Village Gate cards then I for one cheer him.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Sorry Steve you have wrong information, and its off topic to this thread.

Sorry. I made a typo.

[ttown]

The first part of Lauren Lane was an empty lot..or two back to back empty lots. That's why the jog.

[chuckinca]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

Well here is the straight skinny on the Stonecrest vs Sruce Creek 441/27 crossing . . . The bottom line is Stonecrest is very happy that Spruce Creek will not be able to get to Wal-Mart and the other shops on the East Side of 441/27 legally.

Should read:
The bottom line is Stonecrest is NOT very happy that Spruce Creek will xxx be able to get to Wal-Mart and the other shops on the East Side of 441/27 legally.

Stonecrest people are concerned about the Spruce Creek cart traffic on the frontage roads that are very dangerous due to 441/27 drivers avoiding the light at Sonic/CVS into Walmart by driving thru the Stonecrest frontage roads. Spruce Creek could have asked for permission to cross at the Sonic/CVS light crossing as they have access to it thru their back gate. A legal cart crossing there would have been available for use by Spuce Creek, Stonecrest and the Villages and would have been great for those stores and a safer drive for Spruce Creek Carts.

Stonecrest has automatic cart gates north and south of Walmart and do not usually drive carts on the frontage roads.

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[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by chuckinca

Should read:
The bottom line is Stonecrest is NOT very happy that Spruce Creek will xxx be able to get to Wal-Mart and the other shops on the East Side of 441/27 legally.

Stonecrest people are concerned about the Spruce Creek cart traffic on the frontage roads that are very dangerous due to 441/27 drivers avoiding the light at Sonic/CVS into Walmart by driving thru the Stonecrest frontage roads. Spruce Creek could have asked for permission to cross at the Sonic/CVS light crossing as they have access to it thru their back gate. A legal cart crossing there would have been available for use by Spuce Creek, Stonecrest and the Villages and would have been great for those stores and a safer drive for Spruce Creek Carts.

Stonecrest has automatic cart gates north and south of Walmart and do not usually drive carts on the frontage roads.

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A Golf Cart Crossing at the CVS and Wal-Mart is the most dangerous place to cross with a Golf Cart. This is why the State denied the crossing at that location.

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by PennBF

Artic Fox. Anyone can drive into The Villages and experience the life style but when it is suggested they become a pseudo residents without bearing any of the costs or worse have a better position than family and friends then it has gone too far. As I said, if it was the Developers intent to shut this all down and set up a controlled entrance through Village Gate cards then I for one cheer him.

How does one become a pseudo resident? what does that entitle one to? why would anyone want to become a pseudo resident? what in the world are you talking about???

If people were so enamored with The Villages I think they would probably live here and not be pseudo residents that have to sneak around when it gets dark to use our pools and golf courses. I think we're thinking too much of what we have here and honestly don't believe people are wearing out the cart paths to use our "stuff". I welcome them to come in and support the business here - more business keeps prices down for the rest of us.

[Peachie]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

Yes, sorry about the typo. I should proof read my typing. I apologize for the misrepresentation.

No prob, thanks for the clarification and if you live in Stonecrest, watch out for my friend in her cart

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Wow!! I'm famous.

Maybe you can sign autographs at the Town Hall meeting?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by EdV

The retail and medical facilities are not “Villages owned property”. But the roads you travel on in your cart to get to those facilities are maintained with the tax dollars of all the taxpayers in the counties. As such, your friend has every right to travel on those roads whether in a car or cart.

Clearly your friend is excited about the prospect of using those roads to get to all of the medical and retail facilities. I can’t imagine you supporting this VHA blockade solution that would deny her that right and then to continue to call her your friend.

But the path connecting the public Paradise Road to the public access parking lot of the medical center is private property. We certainly have every right to travel on the public roads where golf carts are allowed and so the the residents of Stonecrest. But we are traveling on the private property path at the pleasure of the owner of that property.

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I think one reason the gate was not important 10 years ago is because they had not built a rather sizable Assisted Living Home.

As I said, if it was the Developers intent to shut this all down and set up a controlled entrance through Village Gate cards then I for one cheer him.

I certainly think that the building of the new ALC is the reason for the wall, Penn, I just can't get my head round why it was built "during the night".

As you say, though, it would all be moot if a card-controlled gate is introduced.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Peachie

njbchbum, you made the perfect point, if no non-Villagers are using the cart paths, why would it matter if a gate is placed there as it is in the rest of The Villages?

SPRUCE CREEK will soon have access to the same golf cart path for entrance into The Villages, it appears, since regular golf carts should be able to cross 27/441 shortly.

My friend in Spruce Creek told me this past spring that the scuttle butt going around Spruce Creek was that Stonecrest was upset this crossing was going to happen because Spruce Creek golf carts would have access to them but they couldn't access Spruce Creek. Stonecrest must have their expectations too.

I would think you would be delighted with the new plan because you can access business on 27/441.

no, peachie, you twisted the point! it's not mine! what does it matter if a few non-villagers use the multi-model paths?

and you failed to respond to my questions. so i will repost them here:
why do you continue to raise only a slim possibility of such when no one else does? or are you just upset because 'outsiders' MIGHT be using multi-model paths that are paid for/maintained by villager's amenity fees - especially when you have no idea how many 'outsiders' use them now or MIGHT use themin the future? i just don't get your concern?

i really am sincerely interested in your answers. pm them to me if you do not wish to post here. thanx

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by maddie101

"Proposed" Solution to The Wall

Thanks for that, but I would hardly consider it objective journalism when it's starts out by calling today's Daily Sun article a "puff piece disguised as an article".

I don;t who this guy is that publishes this page, but I'm sure that his objective is the same as the the developer's. To make money. He wants you to pay $19.95 so he can give you his opinion on the Villages, which he refers to as the "real story of the Villages".
Maybe he has some very good information and insights for people who are interested incoming here, but as soon as I see that kind of language several red flags go up. I have to assume that he has some kind of agenda.