[Buckeye Bob]

When, if ever, will the residents actually have control of amenities, etc. South of 466 to 466A? Just like North off 466.....

[LOMDtrainman]

That sounds familiar. North and South remember how that came out! !

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

What I understand of this (which is limited), is that it'll essentially split the Villages up into Villages North and Villages South. I don't know how that will impact utilities or amenities, but I imagine it will most definitely impact them.

[Villages Kahuna]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

I received this (from The Villages) in my email today ->

Bigger isn’t always better!

[stebooo]

I know you pretty much stand with the developer or a lest that is how it appears. Specifically why was this necessary? It implies something wasn't liked about how things were set up in 1-11. Given the politics of late excuse me sas I seem to want to challenge given recent untruths and deception of certain parties.

[stebooo]

Wow you sure shut down this conversation. Some, no many of us were told things when we bought and all were lies. Sorry holding , I'm quite sure you cannot gaurenteed what you are saying as the words of direct past representatives as untrue. This is what happens when a developer is and has been dishonest. Is called dis-trust.

[vintageogauge]

There have been many posts over the last 4 years regarding a north and south Villages and here it comes like it or not. Personally it doesn't bother me one way or the other.

[LuvtheVillages]

Originally Posted by stebooo

I know you pretty much stand with the developer or a lest that is how it appears. Specifically why was this necessary? It implies something wasn't liked about how things were set up in 1-11. Given the politics of late excuse me sas I seem to want to challenge given recent untruths and deception of certain parties.

Actually, I think some people don't like how things are set up in 12-13.
For example, there has been talk about how the paths there do not have ribbon curbing and are deteriorating faster.
For example, I recently read that some homes there are experiencing drainage problems after rain, and it was said that the Developer had reduced the standard design.
For example, 12 and 13 have lots more nature areas.
For example, 12 and 13 have different landscaping in the public areas.

And the bridges, where the name affixed to them will require maintenance.

Project Wide has nothing to do with amenities. It has to do with maintenance. Let the areas with similar maintenance requirements work together. And separate the areas with different maintenance requirements.

[rogerk]

Amazing how powerful facts can be! Nice job👍🤠

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

There won't be any impact on the utilities or the amenities. Utilities have nothing to do with the CDD or the PWAC and the amenities south of SR44 are still owned by the developer.

The economy of scale is unaffected, the contracts and POs are let by the District Purchasing Department not the individual CDDs. The costs per property/CDD/other unit are included in the breakout of the bids that are returned. Purchasing then lets one contract to the supplier/contractor and then bills the appropriate amounts to the correct party.

This has been in the works for almost 2 years that I know of because of the growth that is and will continue to happen.

There are a lot of things driving this, mainly the major differences in landscaping, nature areas, and other infrastructure that are significantly different between north and south of SR44. The other is the size of PWAC, currently 9 members, this will drop it to 8 and stop the addition of new CDDs to PWAC with 12 and above being in PWAC2.

Please attend you CDD meetings over the next 2 weeks, district staff in presenting the information that was given to PWAC and SLCDD to each of them.

This is not something your Supervisors/PWAC is jumping into without a lot of thought and planning. District staff recommended making the transition 10/1/2021 but PWAC disagreed and made the decision to wait until 10/1/2022. There's no hurry to do this and it keeps the shared risks shared between more CDDs and limits the developer's power over the PWAC2, residents can be elected to the CDD13 board in the 2022 Landowner election for 3 of these seats and then have a say for CDD13 on PWAC2.

I agree anyone who is concerned about it, if it affects them (or if they think it will affect them) should attend the meetings.

Just as an aside, I don't live in a CDD. I also don't live in Sumter County. So this has no effect on me at all. But it's about the Villages, and I live in the Villages, and it's a topic of interest.

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by stebooo

Wow you sure shut down this conversation. Some, no many of us were told things when we bought and all were lies. Sorry holding , I'm quite sure you cannot gaurenteed what you are saying as the words of direct past representatives as untrue. This is what happens when a developer is and has been dishonest. Is called dis-trust.

What lies were told to you when you bought your home. in what way has/is the developer been dishonest. Specifics are always much better than generalized statements. I hear this stuff every once in awhile but I didn't have that experience at all. Maybe you had a bad agent, we got references before we chose Beth Pope to be our TV agent and she was upfront on everything so we chose here once again to buy a second home. No lies, no dishonesty involved in either transaction. If anyone is looking for a great, hard working and honest agent give Beth Pope a call and you won't be complaining on here a year down the road.

[Chi-Town]

A taie of two cities. Just not London and Paris.

[Rzepecki]

Originally Posted by Annie66

Thanks GWN. You're the voice of knowledge, reason and understanding.

Double that thanks. If people would only read . . . the newspaper, Districtgov.org, etc.

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by stebooo

I know you pretty much stand with the developer or a lest that is how it appears. Specifically why was this necessary? It implies something wasn't liked about how things were set up in 1-11. Given the politics of late excuse me sas I seem to want to challenge given recent untruths and deception of certain parties.

Interesting how you can assume so much about people. As for me, I try to look at the facts in most matters and leave my personal likes and dislikes aside. If I were to let emotions play out then I would be one of the loudest critics to protest against anything the developer does, they've tried just about everything possible to stop me from flying, stop my videos, and shutdown my business. But none of this is relevant to the issue and doesn't cloud my judgement.

Why is splitting PWAC a good idea?
First and foremost is the design differences between the areas north and south of SR44. The areas south of SR44 have more open/green space than north. The design of the fencing, gates, retention ponds, MMPs, walking paths, and many other features are different to the extent when dealing with CDD12 issues PWAC has to remind itself that the differences exist and are intentional and trying to make one area like the other is not always a good thing. Since PWAC's primary concern is the common infrastructure areas it makes sense to split it where the infrastructure differences are markedly different, at SR44.

Next is the size of the PWAC, with CDDs 5-12 and BWCDD there are 9 people sitting the committee, how many is too big? 10, 11, 12, 15...? Right now, it is big enough, if every supervisor gives 3 minutes of input on a topic, we've easily burned through a half hour at a meeting. At some point we have to say enough, this is a good and logical point for that. We don't want to make ourselves like Congress with so many voices that nothing ever happens, and no work gets done.

There were other options taken into consideration, the most logical one was the combining of some of the smaller CDDs into larger CDDs as is now allowed under FS190. This however had its drawbacks and did not address the differences that still exist between areas north and south.

There are some negatives that can arise out of this separation. There currently exists a social rift between the areas north and south because of the extended physical separation that has existed for so long. This was a consideration for me in recommending the delay until 2022 for the split, to give the community time to grow back together and do a little healing before we make yet another demarcation in the community. The US and THEM needs to go away.

The biggest downside to the splitting of PWAC will be the reduction in risk mitigation. Less CDDs means less places to draw from if a major issue were to arise. The easiest example of this is CDD4's sink hole not long ago. Residents in CDD4 had to go it alone to cover $1.5M in costs and felt a 20-30% increase in maintenance assessments to cover these costs. Had the issue happened south of CR466 the Project Wide Agreement would have played its role and every CDD would have kicked in to cover the costs. This would have put some temporary stress on working capital or R&R funds but would not have resulted in any maintenance assessment increase. With the loss of CDD12 and 13 that impact become a little more difficult to handle. Let's not forget that 12 and 13 will be going it alone in a new project wide agreement, so for now they would only have the 2 CDDs to rely on, not 8.

If you have a problem or a concern with the planned separation, NOW IS THE TIME TO SPEAK UP. The CDDs involved will be going over this topic in detail in this month's meetings and will be making a decision that will be passed on to PWAC and SLCDD next month. Let them know how you feel. Attend the meetings, speak your mind, get involved, show more than digital courage!

[PugMom]

@ GoldWingNut, thx for posting

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by stebooo

Wow you sure shut down this conversation.

You really need to use the "reply with quote" button. No one knows who you are talking to, in any of your posts. We have no idea who you're agreeing with, who you're arguing against.