[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by daniel200

FE962/FE962: Handbook of Florida Fence and Property Law: Trees and Landowner Responsibility

“ If the branches are dead, however, then the landowner with the tree located on his or her property may be responsible, and could be liable for damages caused by the branches. 1 Fla. Jur. 2d Adjoining Landowners § 8 (2022).”

If the trees shed dead fronds, then The Villages or the CDD which owns the trees should pay. If these were green healthy fronds, tough luck

[Angelhug52]

If you do pick them up wear thick gloves and long sleeves and long pants. The spikes harbor a bacteria that can destroy your lungs. Saw a case just like that in my early nursing days here. Thank goodness the Infectious Disease doctor realized that an infected finger was on the way to killing a pt and what it was from. Pay the money and leave the work to experts.

[janetlea]

Originally Posted by janetlea

Hopefully everyone survived the hurricane. I have a villa with a fence in my backyard that has 5 Village palms tress behind my fence which never get trimmed. This morning I had 48 palm fonds in my yard, on my patio roof and the walkway on the side of my house. I called Property Management this am to complain about the palm fonds that are not mine! I was told that due to the fact they are in my yard I am responsible for the clean up even though the Villages owns the palm trees, kind of understand that but I still filled an complaint and was very surprised when someone from the Villages showed up 1/2 hour later. Every storm I have to clean up these palm fonds but never this many. He was very nice but reinforced that I was responsible for the cost of the clean up but he would make a note to have an Arborist look at the palms to see if they are dying. So long story short called my landscaper who is the best, Vidal Landscaping who came today to clean up my mess. They cleaned up 48-50 fonds and then had to clean out all of my gutters due to the debris from the palms that was clogging them to the tune of $350.00. My question is does anyone have an idea how to follow up on this to maybe recroup what I paid for the clean up and to let the Villages know that the landscaper told me I probably have another 5-10 fonds that are going to come down in the next wind storm. Another clean up bill.
Thanks, Janet

Vidal had to do almost a total yard clean up, I didn't feel that in this forum I had to give a detailed accounting of all the things they did. They have never overcharged, I have used them for years because they are reliable and go above and beyond what you ask them to do without adding to the bill.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by janetlea

Vidal had to do almost a total yard clean up, I didn't feel that in this forum I had to give a detailed accounting of all the things they did. They have never overcharged, I have used them for years because they are reliable and go above and beyond what you ask them to do without adding to the bill.

So in other words....what we call ‘up north’, a Fall clean up. Big difference than what you described initially. You know on this forum, the ‘forensic’ membership relies heavily on details! That said, still a little high for that size lot/landscape but look at it as an early Christmas present to Vidal and crew!

[Nell57]

Yes, when you buy in The Villages you are also “buying’’ the neighborhood. If a mature live oak is in your neighbors yard, get ready for acorns and moss.
You do have the benefit of the shade and ambience of the palms. You didn’t have to pay for them to be planted , or any associated costs.
I don’t think you’ll win this one. I’d be thankful that you did not have any damage from Helene and move on with your life.

[PhilR]

Originally Posted by janetlea

Hopefully everyone survived the hurricane. I have a villa with a fence in my backyard that has 5 Village palms tress behind my fence which never get trimmed. This morning I had 48 palm fonds in my yard, on my patio roof and the walkway on the side of my house. I called Property Management this am to complain about the palm fonds that are not mine! I was told that due to the fact they are in my yard I am responsible for the clean up even though the Villages owns the palm trees, kind of understand that but I still filled an complaint and was very surprised when someone from the Villages showed up 1/2 hour later. Every storm I have to clean up these palm fonds but never this many. He was very nice but reinforced that I was responsible for the cost of the clean up but he would make a note to have an Arborist look at the palms to see if they are dying. So long story short called my landscaper who is the best, Vidal Landscaping who came today to clean up my mess. They cleaned up 48-50 fonds and then had to clean out all of my gutters due to the debris from the palms that was clogging them to the tune of $350.00. My question is does anyone have an idea how to follow up on this to maybe recroup what I paid for the clean up and to let the Villages know that the landscaper told me I probably have another 5-10 fonds that are going to come down in the next wind storm. Another clean up bill.
Thanks, Janet

Good friend lives in Hudson Beach just west of us. 6’ high water mark on his walls. Now calls Residence Inn home. The Palm fronds are for sure an eyesore

[MightyDog]

Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas

Don’t waste your time and energy - pay the $350 and put it behind you.

Rather, the OP should realize that landscapers aren't needed to carry palm fronds to the curb or clean gutters.

Find a handyman that charges a reasonable hourly rate and have him come do both chores. Probably wouldn't have cost more than $125.

Also, in the cellphone era, it's always appropriate to ask the contractor to take a picture, or three, of things they say need addressing but, that you can't see from ground level.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by janetlea

Hopefully everyone survived the hurricane. I have a villa with a fence in my backyard that has 5 Village palms tress behind my fence which never get trimmed. This morning I had 48 palm fonds in my yard, on my patio roof and the walkway on the side of my house. I called Property Management this am to complain about the palm fonds that are not mine! I was told that due to the fact they are in my yard I am responsible for the clean up even though the Villages owns the palm trees, kind of understand that but I still filled an complaint and was very surprised when someone from the Villages showed up 1/2 hour later. Every storm I have to clean up these palm fonds but never this many. He was very nice but reinforced that I was responsible for the cost of the clean up but he would make a note to have an Arborist look at the palms to see if they are dying. So long story short called my landscaper who is the best, Vidal Landscaping who came today to clean up my mess. They cleaned up 48-50 fonds and then had to clean out all of my gutters due to the debris from the palms that was clogging them to the tune of $350.00. My question is does anyone have an idea how to follow up on this to maybe recroup what I paid for the clean up and to let the Villages know that the landscaper told me I probably have another 5-10 fonds that are going to come down in the next wind storm. Another clean up bill.
Thanks, Janet

So far I’ve gotten 5 yard waste bags full. Lot from my neighbors palms and oaks shall I expect them to clean them up? Funny thing owning property anything blow in it yours

[twoplanekid]

These pictures were taken today by me when driving along Sea Ranch Drive to get to our condo in Hudson, Florida. All of the hundreds of homes in this area were flooded by 6 or more feet of sea water last Thursday. They have a lot of cleanup and hard work ahead of them. Power is to be restored to this area in one week. We, in the Villages are so lucky to have what we have here.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Angelhug52

If you do pick them up wear thick gloves and long sleeves and long pants. The spikes harbor a bacteria that can destroy your lungs. Saw a case just like that in my early nursing days here. Thank goodness the Infectious Disease doctor realized that an infected finger was on the way to killing a pt and what it was from. Pay the money and leave the work to experts.

Interesting post, I did not know that particular fact!

Maybe there are reasons why costs appear higher than one's intuition would think.

Maybe there are reasons why costs in one region of the country are significantly different that other parts of the country?

Maybe paradise can cost a bit more than where we came from for certain events?

Maybe out of the ordinary from daily events cost a bit more?

Maybe everyone wants to complain so that they get some sympathy for being in a special situation?

Maybe retired people have forgotten about how the working world works, since we don't belong any more. . . its weird getting the same age as old people. . .

I have no idea if the cost is reasonable or not, but if the fronds are as poisonous / dangerous to handle, maybe the cost is reasonable and I aint doing it. . .

but I agree that its an inconvienence for living in near paradise. . and 💩 happens. .

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Interesting post, I did not know that particular fact!

Maybe there are reasons why costs appear higher than one's intuition would think.

Maybe there are reasons why costs in one region of the country are significantly different that other parts of the country?

Maybe paradise can cost a bit more than where we came from for certain events?

Maybe out of the ordinary from daily events cost a bit more?

Maybe everyone wants to complain so that they get some sympathy for being in a special situation?

Maybe retired people have forgotten about how the working world works, since we don't belong any more. . . its weird getting the same age as old people. . .

I have no idea if the cost is reasonable or not, but if the fronds are as poisonous / dangerous to handle, maybe the cost is reasonable and I aint doing it. . .

but I agree that its an inconvienence for living in near paradise. . and 💩 happens. .

Can’t be any different than where we’re from SG. Landscapers deal with poison ivy (most of them immune to it apparently) in our neck of the woods. Don’t remember ever getting an up charge for their exposure to what is a natural occupational hazard. As a finance guy (you..not me), you do know that there are some contractors that take advantage of customers during these types of events....and as I stated in an earlier post, price gouging laws are on the books but I’m sure rarely enforced in most vulnerable states. Otherwise, I agree with most of your post

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

These pictures were taken today by me when driving along Sea Ranch Drive to get to our condo in Hudson, Florida. All of the hundreds of homes in this area were flooded by 6 or more feet of sea water last Thursday. They have a lot of cleanup and hard work ahead of them. Power is to be restored to this area in one week. We, in the Villages are so lucky to have what we have here.

That was the point I was trying to make. The aftermath of the storm becomes more grave as each day passes.