[ilovetv]

In addition the entire "new" area south of 466A contains not one square foot designated for use by dog owners.

The many square feet designated for use by dog owners is "their yard".

If their yard is not big enough for the dog's liking, they can buy land.

There are 950 acres up for sale in Fruitland Park, known as Pine Ridge Dairy Farm, for a price of $50 million.

Land is always a good buy. They don't make it anymore.

The dogs will love 10 acres for a mere $526,310.

The recreational activities of other home owners seem to be adequately addressed. Why not those of dog owners?

"Dog Waste Management and Disposal" is not a "recreational activity".

[zonerboy]

There is land designated for golfers, pickleball players, shuffleboard shufflers, swimmers, pool players, tennis players, volleyball players, horseshoe tossers, softball players, archers, hand-knee-foot sharks, and on and on and on.
What's wrong with land designated for dog owners?
Should I only be required to pay for activities I personally participate in?

[TheVillageChicken]

Originally Posted by zonerboy

There is land designated for golfers, pickleball players, shuffleboard shufflers, swimmers, pool players, tennis players, volleyball players, horseshoe tossers, softball players, archers, hand-knee-foot sharks, and on and on and on.
What's wrong with land designated for dog owners?

It would be easier to answer your question if you told us how much poop golfers, pickleball players, etc. leave behind.

[Ecuadog]

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken

It would be easier to answer your question if you told us how much poop golfers, pickleball players, etc. leave behind.

Love it.

[Cisco Kid]

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[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by zonerboy

There is land designated for golfers, pickleball players, shuffleboard shufflers, swimmers, pool players, tennis players, volleyball players, horseshoe tossers, softball players, archers, hand-knee-foot sharks, and on and on and on.
What's wrong with land designated for dog owners?
Should I only be required to pay for activities I personally participate in?

Seems like I knew before I bought about all these amenties, a dog park was not mentioned. Why is it that people buy in here and then want things, that they should have investigated before buying.
It was pointed out in another post even in the dog parks that we do have, owners don't pick up after their dogs. What will more dirty dog parks accomplish.
Kinda like some who think deed restrictions are for somebody else...............

[delima2000]

Good I'm glad that they are doing this. My husband was bitten on the leg by a dog at the mail boxes. The owner had it on a leash but that didn't stop the dog from biting him. Take them to the dog park not to the mail boxes.

[batman911]

I have never had a dog that would not do it's business in my own yard. Dogs will do what you train them to do.

[Uptown Girl]

First let me say I am a dog lover.
The problem at the Tamarind Grove site is not just about poop.

There are a number of dog owners who go there daily to freely exercise their large dogs.
They let them off the leash (sometimes they have no leash at all) and throw balls and frisbees to engage the dogs in play.
A few of my neighbors with small dogs ON leash have had the bigger dogs come close to running them over in the enthusiastic play.
I have seen village license plates from a number of other villages. Two come regularly from the Village of Pennecamp, for example.

At times there have been so many cars and golf cars in front of the mail station (with those walking/playing with their dogs) neighbors have to park at the pool and walk a distance to get to their mail boxes. For some, this is not an easy chore, especially if they have mobility issues, it is hot or rainy.
I know I sound like I am exaggerating- and probably sound whiny, but it is after all a garden area, not a designated dog park.
I don't presently own a dog and I don't walk back there, so that part does not affect me personally.

I did make a call on one lady. Her dog, (an elderly, obese bull dog) was obviously not healthy and had continual diarrhea. He followed her off leash to her mail box and back daily- leaving a wake of a mess behind…. on the sidewalk. I don't know how she would have cleaned it up, but she made no attempt. Just walked around it.
I swear she fed him, then took him to the mail station to eliminate, so as not to deal with it. She paused long enough for him to void his bowels completely, then left. This went on for weeks. Not only annoying, but a health hazard to people and to other dogs.

I finally followed her home, got her address and called community watch. I was grateful there was somebody I COULD call.
They said they would speak to her.
I have not seen her, or evidence of her dog's droppings since then.

It is sad that the privilege of allowing a well mannered dog and owner to enjoy a pleasant walk back there has been abused, but that is what has happened.

P.S. We had small signs asking people not to put dog droppings in the paper waste cans. People kept peeling the signs off the cans, then depositing the poop bags anyway.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Uptown Girl

First let me say I am a dog lover.
The problem at the Tamarind Grove site is not just about poop.

There are a number of dog owners who go there daily to freely exercise their large dogs.
They let them off the leash (sometimes they don't have a leash at all) and throw balls and frisbees to engage the dogs in play.
A few of my neighbors with small dogs have had the bigger dogs come close to running them over in the enthusiastic play.
I have seen village license plates from a number of other villages. Two come regularly from the Village of Pennecamp, for example.

At times there have been so many cars and golf cars in front of the mail station (with those walking/playing with their dogs) neighbors have to park at the pool and walk a distance to get to their mail boxes. For some, this is not an easy chore, especially if it is hot or rainy.
I know I sound like I am exaggerating- and probably sound whiny.
I don't presently own a dog and I don't walk back there, so that part does not affect me personally.

I did make a call on one lady. Her dog, (an elderly, obese bull dog) was obviously not healthy and had continual diarrhea. He followed her off leash to her mail box and back daily- leaving a wake of a mess behind�. on the sidewalk. I don't know how she would have cleaned it up, but she made no attempt. Just walked around it.
I swear she fed him, then took him to the mail station to eliminate, so as not to deal with it. She paused long enough for him to void his bowels completely, then left. This went on for weeks. Not only annoying, but a health hazard to people and to other dogs.

I finally followed her home, got her address and called community watch.
They said they would speak to her.
I have not seen her, or evidence of her dog's droppings since then.

It is sad that the privilege of allowing a well mannered dog and owner to enjoy a pleasant walk back there has been abused, but that is what has happened.

P.S. We had small signs asking people not to put dog droppings in the paper waste cans. People kept peeling the signs off the cans, then depositing the poop bags anyway.

Uptown Girl; The situation you describe is beyond the pale. It describes some very thoughtless people. It also describes some people who seem to care more about animals than they do people. it also describes people who seem oblivious to the need of the common good.

I notice many dogs at our postal stations. all appear on leash, all appear well behaved and all owners appear considerate but I believe the Developer is correct here.

Since we have no smoking areas I believe it is in keeping to have designated no dog areas

I understand the OP's position but based on your description apparently many dog owners want rights but no responsibilities.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by zonerboy

I do not consider this to be another "dog poop" thread.
There is only one dog park south of 466, and it is so small and poorly placed as to be totally inadequate. It was obviously added as an afterthought by the developer. (this land can't be sold as a home site or rented out as commercial property, so lets fence it in and call it a dog park) In addition the entire "new" area south of 466A contains not one square foot designated for use by dog owners. The recreational activities of other home owners seem to be adequately addressed. Why not those of dog owners?

(Additional Post)
There is land designated for golfers, pickleball players, shuffleboard shufflers, swimmers, pool players, tennis players, volleyball players, horseshoe tossers, softball players, archers, hand-knee-foot sharks, and on and on and on. What's wrong with land designated for dog owners? Should I only be required to pay for activities I personally participate in?

I agree with you Zonerboy. It's obvious why Mail Stations are being (wrongly) used as dog parks.

The Developer planned this retirement community to perfection. It's awesome. The only misstep I see is that there are two dogs allowed per household without adequate dog parks being part of the plan. And dogs need off-leash exercise areas.

There is only one small dog park for the thousands and thousands of dogs that live south of CR 466!! As Zonerboy pointed out, The Bonita Dog park is small, on a hill, and woefully inadequate. And it's sometimes locked during the day!

It's a very interesting topic whether residents should only be required to pay for activities in which they participate. I think not. I'm happy to have my amenities pay for activities I don't use. It's all for a greater good.

P.S. I don't have a horse in this race. We take our dogs daily to a private dog park and we pay for that amenity.

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Seems like I knew before I bought about all these amenties, a dog park was not mentioned. Why is it that people buy in here and then want things, that they should have investigated before buying.
It was pointed out in another post even in the dog parks that we do have, owners don't pick up after their dogs. What will more dirty dog parks accomplish.
Kinda like some who think deed restrictions are for somebody else...............

I moved here with 2 dogs and no expectations as far as the dog parks; however, I did expect to be able to walk my dog where I walked without a bunch of people complaining about it. I always have bags with me - even when I don't have the dogs - and always pick up the poop and am a responsible dog owner. Sooooo I shall walk my dog where I please and thank you very much!

[Warren Kiefer]

Originally Posted by Uptown Girl

First let me say I am a dog lover.
The problem at the Tamarind Grove site is not just about poop.

There are a number of dog owners who go there daily to freely exercise their large dogs.
They let them off the leash (sometimes they have no leash at all) and throw balls and frisbees to engage the dogs in play.
A few of my neighbors with small dogs ON leash have had the bigger dogs come close to running them over in the enthusiastic play.
I have seen village license plates from a number of other villages. Two come regularly from the Village of Pennecamp, for example.

At times there have been so many cars and golf cars in front of the mail station (with those walking/playing with their dogs) neighbors have to park at the pool and walk a distance to get to their mail boxes. For some, this is not an easy chore, especially if they have mobility issues, it is hot or rainy.
I know I sound like I am exaggerating- and probably sound whiny, but it is after all a garden area, not a designated dog park.
I don't presently own a dog and I don't walk back there, so that part does not affect me personally.

I did make a call on one lady. Her dog, (an elderly, obese bull dog) was obviously not healthy and had continual diarrhea. He followed her off leash to her mail box and back daily- leaving a wake of a mess behind…. on the sidewalk. I don't know how she would have cleaned it up, but she made no attempt. Just walked around it.
I swear she fed him, then took him to the mail station to eliminate, so as not to deal with it. She paused long enough for him to void his bowels completely, then left. This went on for weeks. Not only annoying, but a health hazard to people and to other dogs.

I finally followed her home, got her address and called community watch. I was grateful there was somebody I COULD call.
They said they would speak to her.
I have not seen her, or evidence of her dog's droppings since then.

It is sad that the privilege of allowing a well mannered dog and owner to enjoy a pleasant walk back there has been abused, but that is what has happened.

P.S. We had small signs asking people not to put dog droppings in the paper waste cans. People kept peeling the signs off the cans, then depositing the poop bags anyway.

The Villages in it's growth has lost some of the courtesy people once exhibited. This is not exactly on the topic but I believe is indirectly connected. On a street in the Santo Domingo neighborhood a couple own two dogs that are without a doubt as large as Great Danes... this couple appear they are leading a small pony as they allow the dogs TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES IN THE STREET in front of their home. The dog urine actually runs into the gutter and all the way past their two neighbors homes. On a hot day the smell is awful. Every so often the dog owners will pour bleach and water into the gutter to disguise the odor. There are still two things horribly wrong here, 1. If the urine has not dried, the adjacent neighbors will definately track the wet urine into their garage when returning home in a car.
2. the bleach water will be introduced into a lake or pond somewhere.
Before yhou give advice about this problem let me tell you what has been done. Neighborhood Watch was notified, the offices of the Developer was notified, Sumter Count Health was notified, the Sheriff of Sumter was contacted. Each and every source contacted said there is nothing they can do.

[SIRE1]

I find it interesting that there is a lot of concern about where to take dogs to "do their business" and the fact that there isn't any dog parks south of 466A and only a small one south of 466. I live north of 466 and I know there is a dog park near Nancy Lopez but I wonder REALLY, how many people in this portion of The Villages (from 466 to 42 and from Southern Trace to Spanish Springs) would actually take their dog to this area. I can't imagine, nor can any of you, expect all of the homes north of 466 to take their dog daily to the area. I suspect it is only being used by the people who live very close. So it seems to me, unfortunately, that the mail stations are the only area available because they are close. Maybe they should have some special container to dispose of the waste.

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by SIRE1

I find it interesting that there is a lot of concern about where to take dogs to "do their business" and the fact that there isn't any dog parks south of 466A and only a small one south of 466. I live north of 466 and I know there is a dog park near Nancy Lopez but I wonder REALLY, how many people in this portion of The Villages (from 466 to 42 and from Southern Trace to Spanish Springs) would actually take their dog to this area. I can't imagine, nor can any of you, expect all of the homes north of 466 to take their dog daily to the area. I suspect it is only being used by the people who live very close. So it seems to me, unfortunately, that the mail stations are the only area available because they are close. Maybe they should have some special container to dispose of the waste.

OMG - someone with a possible solution instead of just wanting to beat up the dog owners. And what if we actually had poop bags at that station to encourage folks to pick up and dispose of the poop appropriately. Public parks, rv parks, and other communities do this - would be an excellent things for The Villages - and then the dog owners would feel like a tiny portion of their amenity fees actually were for their benefit alone - like all the golfers, pickleball players, tennis players, and on and on and on and on.