[Jimturner]

Originally Posted by newguyintv

Wrong Joe! Why not my Grandkids, Why not my Ex Wife, why not my Aunts and Uncles, why not my girlfriends who my wife doesn't know about, and why not just anybody who you think should be exempt. Follow the rules like the rest of us do!

I must agree with this statement. When I hear EXCEPTION, alarm bells go off. We all signed the same contract. I can see problems with local singles using our pools, recreation centers etc. The perspective of a new Villager being closer to contract signing makes more sense than a long time resident. We went through the rules of the resident agreement and sined because of many of the restrictions. Please don't change the rules to fit someone's vision of unfair, as that would be unfair to 100,000 other residents.

[CarolSells]

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[2BNTV]

A a special event pass would be a very good idea!!!


I agree to disagree with some posters. I am not talking about deed restrictions or being lawless and not following the rules. It seems to me singles should have the same access, as married people do.

Life is not fair and anyone who expects it to be is being foolish. If a person only resides here six months, should they only pay for the months they are here? NO!!! Rules are made for uniformity, and for the general good of the populace. That is what we signed on for. I was not suggesting that married people pay double amenities, or singles pay half the amenity fee, to have access to everything. Only, to be able to, in the oft chance if a single meets someone outside TV and within the 50 mile radius, to have the ability to take that person, to events.

TV would not be overrun by a plethora of single people looking to horn in on some people's rights to enjoy their amenities. We are talking of a small percentage of single people. Nothing more, nothing less.

Would it kill the powers that be, to revisit this issue?

BTW - If something doesn't affect you, does that mean, it is not important?

Lack of compassion, astounds me sometimes!

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by 2BNTV

A a special event pass would be a very good idea!!!


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BTW - If something doesn't affect you, does that mean, it is not important?

Lack of compassion, astounds me sometimes!

So true.

[Nightengale212]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Thank you for bringing this up Joe. There must be a readily implementable, satisfactory and workable solution out there.

The demographic reality is more and more 55 and over people are single/divorced/widowed and remaining so (another baby boomer trend?).

This pass issue has been and continues to be a primary concern for me as a potential single Villager. As it stands, singles are subsidizing the two or more folks households because the amenities fees are paid on a per household basis rather than a per person basis.

I like the previously proposed idea of having a pass that allows single resident Villagers to bring outside dates to Villagers only facilities and events. These passes could be restricted to "only when accompanies by the identified single Villager".

Yes Joe, thank you for bringing this issue up since I was not aware of which will very much change my TV retirement plans

I was widowed in my 40s and have been in a 12 year live in relationship with my partner, and for financial reasons we likely will not legally marry. I own my current home outright, and my plan when the time came was to sell it and purchase a home in TV with only my name on the deed for which my partner does not want to be on it anyway. I am not here to debate the TV rules, but glad to be made aware of this rule so now we can focus on alternate retirement plans.

[Jimturner]

Single residents have the same rights as married people. What is asked for here is to allow guests from the local area to have access to all the wonderful amenities that home owners enjoy. These outside people will have no financial interest in The Villages giving way to no responsibility to respect the rules so many of us signed up for. I personally wish this to remain a retirement community and in no way a dating/partying destination. We have a singles club, a swingers group and more. Let's not add to that list.

[PammyJ]

Originally Posted by Nightengale212

Yes Joe, thank you for bringing this issue up since I was not aware of which will very much change my TV retirement plans

I was widowed in my 40s and have been in a 12 year live in relationship with my partner, and for financial reasons we likely will not legally marry. I own my current home outright, and my plan when the time came was to sell it and purchase a home in TV with only my name on the deed for which my partner does not want to be on it anyway. I am not here to debate the TV rules, but glad to be made aware of this rule so now we can focus on alternate retirement plans.

Don't change your retirement plans! You do NOT have to be on the deed to get a resident ID! As long as they prove they are living with you, they get an ID. It is blue, not green. There are four of us living in our home and we all have ID's that allow us amenities. I think Joe is talking about not being able to get a guest pass for those living in close proximity of The Villages.

[mulligan]

Originally Posted by Nightengale212

Yes Joe, thank you for bringing this issue up since I was not aware of which will very much change my TV retirement plans

I was widowed in my 40s and have been in a 12 year live in relationship with my partner, and for financial reasons we likely will not legally marry. I own my current home outright, and my plan when the time came was to sell it and purchase a home in TV with only my name on the deed for which my partner does not want to be on it anyway. I am not here to debate the TV rules, but glad to be made aware of this rule so now we can focus on alternate retirement plans.

You do not need to change your plans. There is a non-owner resident ID (blue card instead of green). It is a picture ID, and must be renewed every 2 years. All that needs to be done to get it is establish residence.

[kittygilchrist]

How about some compassion for loneliness and feeling awkward? Some of you marrieds do not know how it feels to show up alone.

As a single person I would NOT want to have a guest ID for someone I am dating. That would open a whole can of worms and violate the spirit of residence/guest advantges.

HOWEVER, I would like to be able to have the person I am dating or even just a friend, attend occasional events at recreation centers, such as dances.
Would you married people object to singles getting a pass for their date or a friend to dances or other events where you yourself would never go alone?

How about this? (It annoys me that this has become married vs single)
So why not a rule that ANYONE can get two passes a month for a non resident who lives nearby.

[Sable99]

Originally Posted by mulligan

You do not need to change your plans. There is a non-owner resident ID (blue card instead of green). It is a picture ID, and must be renewed every 2 years. All that needs to be done to get it is establish residence.

I also got the non-owner resident ID's for my long-term renters so they didn't have to renew their IDs every month. I simply had to sign a form that gave them permission to get the non-owner ID's. It is my understanding that their ID's will be pulled when I get either get a new tenant or move to TV myself. I'm hoping for the latter!

[Topspinmo]

Aaaa, come on Singles always get screwed?????more "thinkaboutit" I think they put that rule in so some can't have Haram or keep the Mormans out JUST JOKING

[2BNTV]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

How about some compassion for loneliness and felling awkward?

As a single person I would NOT want to have a guest ID for someone I am dating. That would open a whole can of worms and violate the spirit of residence/guest advantges.

HOWEVER, I would like to be able to have the person I am dating attend occasional events at recreation centers, such as dances.

Would you married people object to singles getting a pass for their date to dances or other events where you would feel awkward going alone.

My point exactly.

I guess some people are suggesting a single needs to have someone live with them or get married, to have the same priviledges, as married people because those are the rules. It is also implying than a single needs to find that special someone within the confines of TV and limiting their pool of dating options.

Some people might say this is an awfully high price to pay for someone wanting to date someone outside of TV. I like to think the person who would live with me or have a more special meaning, to be worth more than, just to obtain a resident/guest pass.

This has more to do with implying that all single people must date or find someone within the confines of TV or having to go on dates outside TV and then live together or get married to have the same priviledges..

It has nothing to do with loneliness. Do married people think every single person is going to date someone outside TV every day for 365 days a year to need an escort to a event or to have a plethora of non-residents, using their TV amenities?

Pluuuuuuueeeezzzzzeeeeeee!!!!!!

[Jimturner]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

How about some compassion for loneliness and feeling awkward? Some of you marrieds do not know how it feels to show up alone.

As a single person I would NOT want to have a guest ID for someone I am dating. That would open a whole can of worms and violate the spirit of residence/guest advantges.

HOWEVER, I would like to be able to have the person I am dating or even just a friend, attend occasional events at recreation centers, such as dances.
Would you married people object to singles getting a pass for their date or a friend to dances or other events where you yourself would never go alone?

How about this? (It annoys me that this has become married vs single)
So why not a rule that ANYONE can get two passes a month for a non resident who lives nearby.

I feel there are good reasons that people living in Marian, lake or Sumter counties should not be considered residents. We villagers pay extra to be a Villages resident. No trickery, or special exception should be able to bend or break those rules.

[Sable99]

Originally Posted by mulligan

You do not need to change your plans. There is a non-owner resident ID (blue card instead of green). It is a picture ID, and must be renewed every 2 years. All that needs to be done to get it is establish residence.

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

How about some compassion for loneliness and feeling awkward? Some of you marrieds do not know how it feels to show up alone.

As a single person I would NOT want to have a guest ID for someone I am dating. That would open a whole can of worms and violate the spirit of residence/guest advantges.

HOWEVER, I would like to be able to have the person I am dating or even just a friend, attend occasional events at recreation centers, such as dances.
Would you married people object to singles getting a pass for their date or a friend to dances or other events where you yourself would never go alone?

How about this? (It annoys me that this has become married vs single)
So why not a rule that ANYONE can get two passes a month for a non resident who lives nearby.

I totally agree, Kitty!

This is what I don't understand. If they have non-owner resident IDs, why can't they give single people one non-owner ID (make the ID a different color) and that person has to be accompanied by the person with the resident ID.

I don't think people understand that if a TV resident wants to take a date or friend to a TV function that they can't do it if the said date or friend lives in Sumter, Marion or Lake County. You cant't even get them a guest ID that you could get if they didn't live in those three counties.

But, my case is different. I'm single but my 90 year old mother and I are both on our deed and both have Resident IDs. The only avtivity my Mother does is go to the Neighborhood Pool. Kinda a waste of the ID. Of course, we had to turn our Resident IDs into TV when we put our home on the rental market.

That brings up a whole other question. What happens to the second ID when one of the people on the deed is no longer living?

[2BNTV]

Originally Posted by Wandatime

Where are you meeting these women that live just outside the walls of TV?

Please know I am trying to inject some humor here.

I haven't met anyone yet, but I don't want to limit the possibilities.


Disclaimer: This is not the ranting of a sex crazed maniac, who wants to date anyone, who is breathing.

I find it very amusing that some people have a very myopic view of the world. It seems some people want to see everything in black and white terms, when most of the world is a shade of gray.

I just love how people can look at a simple issue with uncovering, so many sides. Stay tuned for more endearing comments.

A chair has four legs. A horse has four legs. Does that mean a chair is the same as a horse?