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The Florida legislature is even now considering "constitutional carry" (House Bill 543, Companion Senate Bill 150) for the state of Florida. Briefly stated, constitutional carry would allow any Floridian of legal age and not otherwise forbidden to own a firearm, to carry one in public without having to obtain a permit to do so. The current permitting system would remain in effect however for those who wish to access it, most probably because of reciprocity agreements between Florida and other states.

What many people don't realize is how common constitutional carry is in America. Fully half the states already allow it. Besides Florida, the states of Nebraska, South Carolina, and New Mexico are also considering going that route as well.

I confess to being of two minds on the issue. After all, it is called "Constitutional carry" for a reason. But merely OWNING a gun does not guarantee that the owner will be able to USE it in a lawful and safe manner. The current system in Florida does provide a way to assure that a permit holder has demonstrated at least a minimum knowledge of the law as well as showing he/she has basic skills in how to use a firearm in a self-defense situation.

Is this something we want to see come to The Villages?
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Just what we need, more guns.
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No, do I want every wacko on the street packing, hell no.
The bigger question is why do retired LEO's have to qualify every year, and CCL holders only every 7 years ?
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No, do I want every wacko on the street packing, hell no.
The bigger question is why do retired LEO's have to qualify every year, and CCL holders only every 7 years ?
Probably (though I don't know for sure) because the LEOs need to do that in order to keep their license. I know a couple of retired cops who are still licensed peace officers.
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How would you stop it from coming to TV? There are thousands of CWFLs in TV now. On any night you could have people carrying at the town Square (25/50) or any place else in TV. It's here.
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No, do I want every wacko on the street packing, hell no.
The bigger question is why do retired LEO's have to qualify every year, and CCL holders only every 7 years ?
Retired LEOs qualify under HR 218 so they can carry throughout the US. If they just want to carry in Florida then its the 7 year license.
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A CWFL holder never has to re-qualify.
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No, do I want every wacko on the street packing, hell no.
The bigger question is why do retired LEO's have to qualify every year, and CCL holders only every 7 years ?
Retired LEOs qualify yearly due to a federal law which was passed to allow them to concealed carry through out the US (some exemptions and rules apply like federal buildings). No concealed carry permits needed by different states.
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Constitutional carry most likely will not increase the number of guns owned....maybe some increase in number who carry....

For sure in public one will not know who is carrying or not....just like before constitutional carry.

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The Florida legislature is even now considering "constitutional carry" (House Bill 543, Companion Senate Bill 150) for the state of Florida. Briefly stated, constitutional carry would allow any Floridian of legal age and not otherwise forbidden to own a firearm, to carry one in public without having to obtain a permit to do so. The current permitting system would remain in effect however for those who wish to access it, most probably because of reciprocity agreements between Florida and other states.

What many people don't realize is how common constitutional carry is in America. Fully half the states already allow it. Besides Florida, the states of Nebraska, South Carolina, and New Mexico are also considering going that route as well.

I confess to being of two minds on the issue. After all, it is called "Constitutional carry" for a reason. But merely OWNING a gun does not guarantee that the owner will be able to USE it in a lawful and safe manner. The current system in Florida does provide a way to assure that a permit holder has demonstrated at least a minimum knowledge of the law as well as showing he/she has basic skills in how to use a firearm in a self-defense situation.

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It will still be the obligation of those wishing to carry, to know the laws and restrictions. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
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The Florida legislature is even now considering "constitutional carry" (House Bill 543, Companion Senate Bill 150) for the state of Florida. Briefly stated, constitutional carry would allow any Floridian of legal age and not otherwise forbidden to own a firearm, to carry one in public without having to obtain a permit to do so. The current permitting system would remain in effect however for those who wish to access it, most probably because of reciprocity agreements between Florida and other states.

What many people don't realize is how common constitutional carry is in America. Fully half the states already allow it. Besides Florida, the states of Nebraska, South Carolina, and New Mexico are also considering going that route as well.

I confess to being of two minds on the issue. After all, it is called "Constitutional carry" for a reason. But merely OWNING a gun does not guarantee that the owner will be able to USE it in a lawful and safe manner. The current system in Florida does provide a way to assure that a permit holder has demonstrated at least a minimum knowledge of the law as well as showing he/she has basic skills in how to use a firearm in a self-defense situation.

Is this something we want to see come to The Villages?
Well, I don't....... because there are a lot of "Hotheads", uptight seniors, inflexible seniors, and demented seniors locate here. Not to mention the excessive drinking that is prevalent here.
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Well, I don't....... because there are a lot of "Hotheads", uptight seniors, inflexible seniors, and demented seniors locate here. Not to mention the excessive drinking that is prevalent here.
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Since places with the strictest gun ownership laws have the highest crime rates, I would say yes, it is what we need. Also, the way the government is going, we may need to use guns to keep our rights at some point, which is why we have the second amendment. I have friends that are big carry guys, I am not. However, I do own several firearms and being ex Military, know how to use them. I don't believe I would ever need them in TV, but you never know.

It is an actual right to own and carry a weapon if you want, so I would support CC.
I think that carrying a concealed firearm SHOULD require special licenses and training and methods to keep mental patients and recent felons from buying or carrying guns.
......I would be fine with non-concealed carry, BUT..........a big BUT.......if I were in charge of the US, I would require all guns sold to civilians to be SINGLE-SHOT (EVEN including pistols). That way there could be very few MASS MURDERS.
........Everyone knows that the US has the MOST Gun violence and the MOST guns. That is a DIRECT PROPORTION where more VIOLENCE happens because of MORE guns in society. The US bar chart of gun VIOLENCE compared to other countries is COMPLETELY "off the chart".
..........America has to wake up some time from this national NIGHTMARE caused by the ALL-POWERFUL greed and power promoted for the GUN manufacturers by the NRA.
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It will still be the obligation of those wishing to carry, to know the laws and restrictions. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
True, except that now, in order to get a permit, you have to certify that you have read and understand the applicable laws. Whether or not you actually DID that might be another story entirely, but at least you're on record as having done so. There would be no such safeguard with constitutional carry.
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