[Number 10 GI]

The NRA was not founded as a hunting organization and has never been focused on hunting. Here is an explanation of why the organization was founded.

A Brief History of the NRA | National Rifle Association

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

The NRA was not founded as a hunting organization and has never been focused on hunting. Here is an explanation of why the organization was founded.

A Brief History of the NRA | National Rifle Association

Those pesky facts again...

[Villages Kahuna]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

The Florida legislature is even now considering "constitutional carry" (House Bill 543, Companion Senate Bill 150) for the state of Florida. Briefly stated, constitutional carry would allow any Floridian of legal age and not otherwise forbidden to own a firearm, to carry one in public without having to obtain a permit to do so. The current permitting system would remain in effect however for those who wish to access it, most probably because of reciprocity agreements between Florida and other states.

What many people don't realize is how common constitutional carry is in America. Fully half the states already allow it. Besides Florida, the states of Nebraska, South Carolina, and New Mexico are also considering going that route as well.

I confess to being of two minds on the issue. After all, it is called "Constitutional carry" for a reason. But merely OWNING a gun does not guarantee that the owner will be able to USE it in a lawful and safe manner. The current system in Florida does provide a way to assure that a permit holder has demonstrated at least a minimum knowledge of the law as well as showing he/she has basic skills in how to use a firearm in a self-defense situation.

Is this something we want to see come to The Villages?

At least it has the “legal age” terminology. A similar law passed recently in Missouri would permit a pre-schooler or kindergartener to openly carry ANY kind of firearm into their schools and classrooms.

[Cybersprings]

[QUOTE=jimjamuser;2188870]Sorry, but that is a little like the chicken and the egg controversy.......WHICH one came FIRST? MAYBE NOW, today people may feel a NEED to carry a gun, but it happened AFTER the NRA captured the US government to produce giant PROFITS for the Gun industry OWNERS. And the "LITTLE PEOPLE" suffered the consequences.
........If one remembers back to between WW2 and 1960 the NRA was a HUNTING organization not A HUNTING HUMANS and killing humans organization. AND my Grandfather and father had HUNTING animals-type guns NOT semi-auto 30-round magazine, human-killing $3,000 military-style weapons of WAR ! And you-all will remember that MURDERS were few and far between back then. And the demented MASS-murder scene of TODAY did NOT even exist.
.........Which came 1st the MAN killings or the MAN killing weapons? I KNOW that I know![/

Sometimes I wonder if the TOTV should provide some sort of test before allowing folks to post

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Believe me, I have seen a lot of nonsense flowing on these pages. And much worse than nonsense. Some people think that to LOSE something is spelled loose. I must have seen that 10 times. And the funny thing is that I myself am a bad spealler.

Sorta like the definition of "cult". A "cult" is what the OTHER guy believes in! So too with nonsense: it all depends on what side of the fence you're standing on. One guy's nonsense might be another guy's gospel.

For myself I always give more attention and credence to arguments and points backed up by verifiable facts. Anyone can spout emotionally-charged buzzwords and quote "facts" that "everybody knows". That is not to say that someone does NOT have the right to express emotional opinions. Just don't expect such opinions to be held in the same esteem as those based on facts and logic.

[Causey]

"Constitutional Carry" is our guarantee that our rights are preserved for each and every American. The 2nd Amendment reads "shall not be infringed". It does not say anything about others rights being violated because someone is not comfortable with such a right.

[Fltpkr]

No. Happy hour and 9mm semi-autos - the perfect combination!

[Hardlyworking]

Originally Posted by Fltpkr

No. Happy hour and 9mm semi-autos - the perfect combination!

That would be illegal. You cannot carry a gun into a bar.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Causey

"Constitutional Carry" is our guarantee that our rights are preserved for each and every American. The 2nd Amendment reads "shall not be infringed". It does not say anything about others rights being violated because someone is not comfortable with such a right.

Agree.

However it comes with a caveat. No right, no matter how inalienable, can be exercised absent the duty to exercise it responsibly. The right of free speech does not give one the right to yell "fire!" in a crowded theater, for example. I agree that the right to keep and bear arms is inalienable, however if I start shooting rounds into the air, even in my own front yard, I have no reason NOT to expect that a deputy or five would not show up within a matter of minutes to explain to me the error of my ways.

It is not unreasonable to expect that someone exercising their right to keep and bear arms both know how to use their firearm in a safe and responsible manner, as well as to have a knowledge of the laws pertaining to its use.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Fltpkr

No. Happy hour and 9mm semi-autos - the perfect combination!

No difference than before Constitutional Carry, with a permit.

It is illegal to carry while impaired. Just like driving...

[Lindsyburnsy]

Except very consolidated into a very small area.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Except very consolidated into a very small area.

Huh? You think it's only TV where it will be allowed?

[nn0wheremann]

Is constitutional carry concealed carry, or open carry, for, as the song says, “all the honest world to see”?

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

It is illegal to carry while impaired. Just like driving...

& no carrying in a bar............drinking or not.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by nn0wheremann

Is constitutional carry concealed carry, or open carry, for, as the song says, “all the honest world to see”?

Depends on the state, I would think.

But here in Florida, according to an article in the Tallahassee Democrat, January 20, 2023: "Under permitless carry legislation, a person who legally owns a firearm may carry it in public, visibly or concealed, at almost any time or place, without training, registration or government licensing. Simple as that."