[Byte1]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

What does FL charge these days for the license? I haven't renewed my license in a while...

Funny, I can't even remember how much the renewal fee was. I did it on line and I think it was $45. Pretty easy.

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

Just wait for this to come to TV. Sounds like everyone should be carrying. Maybe get a gun rack installed on your golf cart.

Police: Armed Golf Cart Driver Kidnaps Philadelphia Woman

Im goimg oit golfing tommorow with my 9mm handgun.with three spare mags.
If i see anyone there without a collared shirt, ill turn that golf course into the Old West

[Hardlyworking]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Funny, I can't even remember how much the renewal fee was. I did it on line and I think it was $45. Pretty easy.

Yep, $45 to renew. If your license expired more than 6 months ago you have to apply for a new license.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

That was Michigan. Get your facts straight!

Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin.......they are all the same, same. And the point I made was about the lady Governor that some residents of some NORTH Central American state were trying to kidnap and maybe do SERIOUS VIOLENCE to her. Basically, everyone knew what I meant and I did NOT want to WASTE my time and look it up exactly. I am NOT a newspaper editor that gets paid $150,000 per year. I get paid MUCH less so EXPECT me to NOT look up everything I write about so that it is PERFECT and NEVER without criticism or error.
Old Proverb - Let he (she, it) that has achieved divine PERFECTION cast the 1st slings and arrows of childish CORRECTION.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

Just wait for this to come to TV. Sounds like everyone should be carrying. Maybe get a gun rack installed on your golf cart.

Police: Armed Golf Cart Driver Kidnaps Philadelphia Woman

That IS funny, but at the same time.........it isn't funny. Lot's of older, marginally cool-headed people here in Bubble-Land. You throw in excessive drinking and arguments at the Squares at night and you have a pretty combustible mix. And you have fewer Police than needed and maybe the Police on bicycles are gone? Which was a GOOD idea.
........I for ONE do NOT want to see this Constitutional violence intensifier pass. And probably the whole idea ought to be voted on in a referendum-style question in the next election.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

From the sound of it that PREFERRED test would be one that passes people that think a certain way. And would exclude ALL others that think the OPPOSITE way.
........For example, say that most people in Bubble Land would vote for (so-called)(which I would call DESTRUCTIVE to general and local SOCIETY and promoting VIOLENCE) Constitutional carry. Then, those who say, "NO, NO, that is a TERRIBLE idea" would have to be SILENCED.
..........It is my hope that people can see what this is - namely a 1st step toward a Fascist State. !st arm as many people as possible, then rile them up with violent oratory, and then have them attack some physical area, and then declare martial law. And BINGO the US gets a government like in Russia and China.
...........They say that a Country's people GET the government they DESERVE, so EVERYONE carry those MILITARY-STYLE guns and have "Constitutional carry" and watch your Country descend into violence and Fascism. Enjoy......I hope that I am NOT too old to make it to Canada.

"MILITARY-STYLE guns..."

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

As worded - that means that Fl becomes the wild west where MIGHT makes RIGHT and to FEAR the quick-tempered individual with the FASTEST DRAW.
.........What a beautiful FUTURE this PORTENDS !

"The Wild West"... IT NEVER HAPPENED!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by ckcapaul

Pesky Facts Paintball
The game was invented in May 1981 in New Hampshire by Hayes Noel, a Wall Street stock trader, and Charles Gaines, an outdoorsman and writer

Don't bother... Facts don't matter...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

That was Michigan. Get your facts straight!

"Facts"? We don't need no stinkin' facts!

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

..........And the TV has shown plenty of these low-life, low-IQ types in both Wisconsin and Minnesota. And in one of those states they planned to CAPTURE their lady Governor. Were they JUST going to brandish her?

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Credibility lost on that one...

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

There are 2 divergent sentences in that post. " Never the wild, west". And then right before that, "brandishing a AR 15. If someone IS BRANDISHING a weapon then practically by definition, they are trying to intimidate another human being. That IS just WRONG to me and at the same level as a stupid BULLY in 6th grade.
..........And the TV has shown plenty of these low-life, low-IQ types in both Wisconsin and Minnesota. And in one of those states they planned to CAPTURE their lady Governor. Were they JUST going to brandish her?

That was not Minnesota, but Michigan. Minnesota is ruled by a retired Master Sergeant/History teacher with delusions of adequacy.

Somewhat dangerous ground however, attempting to compare intelligence levels with gun ownership. Any correlation one could make would be completely subjective; and could possibly be seen as an attempt by the person making such a correlation to justify a certain mindset about guns and gun ownership when all other attempts at making a logical argument one way or the other have failed.

[TrapX]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

However it comes with a caveat. No right, no matter how inalienable, can be exercised absent the duty to exercise it responsibly. The right of free speech does not give one the right to yell "fire!" in a crowded theater, for example.

You have that wrong.
Your 1st amendment guarantees you have the right to shout "fire" in a theater anytime you want. However, you are responsible for what happens as a result.

Translated to the 2nd amendment, it guarantees you the right to carry a gun anytime you want. However, if you use it to commit a crime, you are responsible for what happens as a result.

There is a huge difference between going to the government to ask for permission to say something, and having the right to do so, whenever you may want.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by TrapX

You have that wrong.
Your 1st amendment guarantees you have the right to shout "fire" in a theater anytime you want. However, you are responsible for what happens as a result.

Translated to the 2nd amendment, it guarantees you the right to carry a gun anytime you want. However, if you use it to commit a crime, you are responsible for what happens as a result.

There is a huge difference between going to the government to ask for permission to say something, and having the right to do so, whenever you may want.

I believe that was the original point. Any "right" is a coin with two sides. The other side reads "responsibility".

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

That was not Minnesota, but Michigan. Minnesota is ruled by a retired Master Sergeant/History teacher with delusions of adequacy.

Somewhat dangerous ground however, attempting to compare intelligence levels with gun ownership. Any correlation one could make would be completely subjective; and could possibly be seen as an attempt by the person making such a correlation to justify a certain mindset about guns and gun ownership when all other attempts at making a logical argument one way or the other have failed.

I have NO problem with gun ownership. I have crawled through cactus needles out west to HUNT Pronghorn Antelope with BOTH a rifle AND a bow. And I "fair chased" the antelope - meaning that I did not sit and WAIT for them to come to a WATERING hole like some sad assassin. So, I earned MY respect on the subject of guns and hunting.
.........I thought I made myself clear that all gun owners are NOT lowlifes, but those creeps with masks and bulletproof vests strutting like roosters with their 30 round magazine semi-autos in other words, NOT a weapon for hunting or DEFENSE (NOT offense) for a home. It is those strutting ROOSTERS with equivalent brains that we see on TV in Arizona, Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin and others...........that I find sickening and offensive to my 1950s image of the NRA as a hunting magazine. Just brain-dead soldiers of fortune-want-to-be-s.
.........No, there is legitimate gun ownership and YES, that is my interpretation of the situation. And I know that others may think that those POSERS are wonderful, but I think they just give GUNS and America a BAD name and image to the WORLD.

[Hardlyworking]

Are you including Antifa in those groups to which you are referring?