[Chamo]

One bullet …………. LMAO
You better be a dam good shot

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by me4vt

The Villages don’t set State Law! So the question do “We” want it coming to The Villages, isn’t a question! It’s State Law not Village Law!!!

And the winnah....for Glaringly Obvious Point of the Day, is...

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by Chamo

One bullet …………. LMAO
You better be a dam good shot

But that’s all they need on TV

[bluecenturian]

Know your facts.

Retired LEO have to qualify each year to maintain their HR218 which is issued by their retiring agency. This agency will be subject to civil liability in a shooting therefore they require proficiency. CCP have no other agency backing them so the proficiency and liability would be on the individual.

Retired LEO get a retired ID AND a HR218 permit. You are not covered under HR218 without a valid permit which expires annually. I know plenty of retired who choose not to get the 218 and have a CCP instead since they have no plans traveling outside their home state with a firearm.

[Cheapbas]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well, I don't....... because there are a lot of "Hotheads", uptight seniors, inflexible seniors, and demented seniors locate here. Not to mention the excessive drinking that is prevalent here.

Let’s see what happens when someone lays on their horn at the person in front for taking a split second to long to advance at a stop. People with guns in their golf carts isn’t going to work out well.

[Daxdog]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

The Florida legislature is even now considering "constitutional carry" (House Bill 543, Companion Senate Bill 150) for the state of Florida. Briefly stated, constitutional carry would allow any Floridian of legal age and not otherwise forbidden to own a firearm, to carry one in public without having to obtain a permit to do so. The current permitting system would remain in effect however for those who wish to access it, most probably because of reciprocity agreements between Florida and other states.

What many people don't realize is how common constitutional carry is in America. Fully half the states already allow it. Besides Florida, the states of Nebraska, South Carolina, and New Mexico are also considering going that route as well.




I confess to being of two minds on the issue. After all, it is called "Constitutional carry" for a reason. But merely OWNING a gun does not guarantee that the owner will be able to USE it in a lawful and safe manner. The current system in Florida does provide a way to assure that a permit holder has demonstrated at least a minimum knowledge of the law as well as showing he/she has basic skills in how to use a firearm in a self-defense situation.

Is this something we want to see come to The Villages?

I don’t think it will increase the number of guns a lot, criminals don’t care about the law, and have you ever taken a class to conceal carry. Not much to it and to pass you only have to fire one round to qualify. Not sure about what retired police have to do, but ex military only have to pay the fee, no class required. It’s not like we have open carry, that would really upset some of our residents from NY and Ca. If you don’t try to hurt me of my wife you would never know if I’m carrying. If you don’t like guns, don’t buy one.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Why stop with concealed carry…..go for open carry!
The macho guys can show off their pretty guns.

Or.....perhaps those "macho guys" can show off their pretty cars? Oh wait.....did you mean "guns" as in their muscular bodies? I am sure that the thousands of "guys" (and females) that carry concealed in the local area do not consider themselves "macho" but I may be mistaken. Some probably carry for self defense, but I may be mistaken about that also.

[MrFlorida]

I would be more worried about the criminals that carry guns than regular citizens....watch the local news, it's always the bad guys creating the all the problems, especially in Orange county.

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

i think that carrying a concealed firearm should require special licenses and training and methods to keep mental patients and recent felons from buying or carrying guns.
......i would be fine with non-concealed carry, but..........a big but.......if i were in charge of the us, i would require all guns sold to civilians to be single-shot (even including pistols). That way there could be very few mass murders.
........everyone knows that the us has the most gun violence and the most guns. That is a direct proportion where more violence happens because of more guns in society. The us bar chart of gun violence compared to other countries is completely "off the chart".
..........america has to wake up some time from this national nightmare caused by the all-powerful greed and power promoted for the gun manufacturers by the nra.

amen!!!!!

[jimschlaefer]

I'm a strong supporter of Constitutional Carry. As a former NRA Pistol Instructor, Bullseye competitor and USMC veteran I am also a strong proponent for those who carry to be effectively trained in laws, technique and marksmanship. Firearms are dangerous and, in untrained hands, as much of a threat to innocent bystanders as they are to a threat. Case in point: I attended a licensing class in Texas where they required a practical part of the process to be accomplished on the range in order to qualify for the permit. A young man there was literally unable to hit a man-sized target at 7 yards. That was a dangerous situation. I'm often asked for my opinion on what folks should consider for defense. My personal opinion is that those who are not willing to practice and be effective with a pistol should consider not carrying a sidearm. That's not to define the law to carry, but the individual choice to carry. High stress, high adrenaline situations are no place for "spray and pray" self defense techniques.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Cheapbas

Let’s see what happens when someone lays on their horn at the person in front for taking a split second to long to advance at a stop. People with guns in their golf carts isn’t going to work out well.

Do you really think that we don't already have many CCW carrying while driving a golf cart or automobile in The Villages? Apparently folks on here think that anyone that carries a firearm are loose cannons (no pun intended) waiting to go off at the slightest provocation. Seems like a lot of hysteria over "what if."

[bark4me]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

No, do I want every wacko on the street packing, hell no.
The bigger question is why do retired LEO's have to qualify every year, and CCL holders only every 7 years ?

Because of HR218

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed

It’s the potential victim of an inexperienced gun carrier that concerns me. Concealed carry should require some license. There are people that act spontaneously and irrationally - some with diagnosed mental conditions that should not carry. Bipolar off meds, early onset dementia, etc. Not bad people but simply not always wired right. Hard question with no easy answers

Most of the people you mentioned are prohibited from buy a firearm, let alone carrying one...

[Lindsyburnsy]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

The Florida legislature is even now considering "constitutional carry" (House Bill 543, Companion Senate Bill 150) for the state of Florida. Briefly stated, constitutional carry would allow any Floridian of legal age and not otherwise forbidden to own a firearm, to carry one in public without having to obtain a permit to do so. The current permitting system would remain in effect however for those who wish to access it, most probably because of reciprocity agreements between Florida and other states.

What many people don't realize is how common constitutional carry is in America. Fully half the states already allow it. Besides Florida, the states of Nebraska, South Carolina, and New Mexico are also considering going that route as well.

I confess to being of two minds on the issue. After all, it is called "Constitutional carry" for a reason. But merely OWNING a gun does not guarantee that the owner will be able to USE it in a lawful and safe manner. The current system in Florida does provide a way to assure that a permit holder has demonstrated at least a minimum knowledge of the law as well as showing he/she has basic skills in how to use a firearm in a self-defense situation.

Is this something we want to see come to The Villages?

So, explain to me why it's safe to carry weapons anywhere, EXCEPT at an NRA Convention or certain political rallies? Why is that exactly?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Malsua

That's rookie numbers. Gonna blame it on all the northeast transplants although I have had a FL carry license since 2009, long before I bought down here.

Bad guys have always carried, so if someone carrying bothers you, I hate to break it to you but it happens around you, all the time. Good guys with permits and bad guys with bad intent carry and you simply are unaware of it.

My S&W bodyguard .380 fits in my front pocket in its holster. Even in tighter blue jeans it looks like keys or something.

I have a FL CCW, but my permanent address is still in MD...

I'd tend to think I'm not a unicorn...