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Old 02-11-2021, 09:34 AM
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IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf. I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.
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My #1 rule re roundabouts.

Keep eyes and head on a swivel, NEVER go side-by-side with another vehicle, distrust all signals etc, NEVER assume that the vehicle will stop before entering the roundabout as you're approaching them, be ready to brake at any time, and ALWAYS assume the worst from other drivers.
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IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf. I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.
If you did a search, there are probably 10 threads in past that are at least 80 posts each, it's the most discussed topic in history.

Here is a quick lesson, if you follow this you will be more than OK. Just think of a 2 lane roundabout as a 2 lane 4 way stop. If you were making a left turn you would be in the left land (inside lane 3rd exit) and if you were making a right turn you would in the right (outside lane 1st exit). If you were going straight you would be in either lane (2nd exit is straight). There is even a sign before every roundabout showing where each lane can go.

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In this diagram, the yellow car at the bottom in the left lane, where can he proceed to? He can go straight using either lane, or go to the third exit using the left lane.
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My #1 rule re roundabouts.

Keep eyes and head on a swivel, NEVER go side-by-side with another vehicle, distrust all signals etc, NEVER assume that the vehicle will stop before entering the roundabout as you're approaching them, be ready to brake at any time, and ALWAYS assume the worst from other drivers.
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***watch out for drivers going the wrong way in the RB
***watch out for cyclists in a pack of 20 blowing through the yield sign as if they were one entity
***beware non-street legal golf carts cutting across lanes in front of you
***beware cars going 270 around the RB in the outer lane, and cars exiting at 90 from the inner lane
***Be especially concerned if a car with out of state handicapped plates is approaching the entrance to the RB
***and my favorite, beware the driver who just stops dead in the middle of a RB, usually just far enough ahead that you can't see her around the circle

Enjoy your drive today!
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They work perfectly. It's the drivers that either don't take the time to learn how to navigate them or refuse to follow the procedures that just don't work.
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Just assume the other drivers will not stop, cut into your lane, cut you off or hit you and you will be fine!!
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If you did a search, there are probably 10 threads in past that are at least 80 posts each, it's the most discussed topic in history.

Here is a quick lesson, if you follow this you will be more than OK. Just think of a 2 lane roundabout as a 2 lane 4 way stop. If you were making a left turn you would be in the left land (inside lane 3rd exit) and if you were making a right turn you would in the right (outside lane 1st exit). If you were going straight you would be in either lane (2nd exit is straight). There is even a sign before every roundabout showing where each lane can go.

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In this diagram, the yellow car at the bottom in the left lane, where can he proceed to? He can go straight using either lane, or go to the third exit using the left lane.
Yes, but the blue car at the top SHOULD NOT EVEN CONSIDER ENTERING THE RB until traffic in both lanes has cleared. He may intend to turn into the first exit in the outer lane, but the car in the RB already may have come from the first entrance to his left and intend to (legally) go straight to the same exit
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IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf. I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.
I've been saying all along that roundabouts in The Villages, with folks that have never seen them before and are inherently bad drivers anyway, should be single lane. You can explain the proper procedure of maneuvering through them all you want, but the simple point is that there is not a given hour of the day, of the year, decade, etc. that you won't find that 90% of the operators handle a roundabout incorrectly.

Single lane is the only solution. Instruction fails miserably.
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If you did a search, there are probably 10 threads in past that are at least 80 posts each, it's the most discussed topic in history.
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I'm fine with them, for the thousands upon thousands of cars that use them daily there are very few accidents and I could not imagine the backups we would have if those roundabouts were all stop light maintained intersections.
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IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf. I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.

No, it drivers that pull out when they are supposed to yield to ALL traffic in roundabout. It’s the drivers that stay in the right lane and go to 3rd exit. It’s the drivers that stop when entering roundabout when the only have to yield. So, it’s the drivers!
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Old 02-11-2021, 10:43 AM
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I think our roundabouts work very well. I am glad we have them instead of traffic lights.

In my case, I go thru them slowly with my hand always on the horn, which I use frequently.
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I've been saying all along that roundabouts in The Villages, with folks that have never seen them before and are inherently bad drivers anyway, should be single lane. You can explain the proper procedure of maneuvering through them all you want, but the simple point is that there is not a given hour of the day, of the year, decade, etc. that you won't find that 90% of the operators handle a roundabout incorrectly.

Single lane is the only solution. Instruction fails miserably.
How in the world do you come up with such conclusions?!?

Of course there's a learning curve for the new folks. But I've been here full time for eight years now, and with all those "inherently bad drivers" and "90% of the operators" handling the roundabouts incorrectly, I see a very small percentage driving the roundabouts improperly. And most of those are obviously being cautious, knowing they haven't yet mastered roundabout driving.

And anybody advocating for single lane roundabouts has no idea of the congestion that would cause. It would in effect turn Morse and Buena Vista into single lane roadways. The capacity of a roadway is limited by the most restrictive section of that road.

Are roundabouts in TV perfect? No. Are they largely safe and efficient? Yes.

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NEVER go side-by-side with another vehicle
This is the key, along with indicating your intention to exit the roundabout.

Give others room to move - if you are in the outside lane and someone is in the inside lane and wants to turn right, it is up to you to let them do so.

Having both lanes of Buena Vista merge into one before every roundabout would result in far more accidents.
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