[Pettys1]

Then you have a right not to go to those stores just like they have they right to go . You wear your mask don't worry bout what someone else is doing

[Pettys1]

Originally Posted by Hopeful2

Newsflash - your constitutional rights are not absolute! Your rights end when they infringe upon the rights of another to be safe. Just as you can not smoke indoors in public places; you can not yell fire in a crowded room when there is none; you can not drive a car without a license; you can not operate a vehicle when intoxicated; etc., etc., etc.

People refusing to wear a mask may as well put a sign on their forehead saying - "I don't give a #h%* about you," because that is clearly what they're saying.

And yes, I am an expert on Constitutional Law.

You have no idea what people are saying if they don't wear a mask. If someone suffers from COPD to wear a mask makes it harder for them to breathe. For those who suffer from asthma could make them have an attack. For those who are claustrophobic it puts them in a panic. So you say well they should just stay home. Why? Maybe you should stay home in your bubble. People have the right to live. But I'm sure most of you would like those who impose on your " mask" wearing binge would rather not have people like this in society. In your eyes they have no right to even live.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Pettys1

Then you have a right not to go to those stores just like they have they right to go . You wear your mask don't worry bout what someone else is doing

Spoken by someone who honestly does not understand the reason why everyone should wear a mask.

[guitarguy]

People without a mask may have been through COVID and recovered. They are no danger. Why be angry with them for wearing no mask?
What will happen as we start taking a vaccine? Will some still expect them to wear a mask?

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Hopeful2

Your understanding of the Constitution is very rudimentary.
Our government has the power to limit individuals' freedom under certain circumstances. Citizens are not free to do whatever they want if government regulations or laws are put into place prohibiting such actions. (Hence, the few simplistic examples I cited - unlicensed driving; intoxication while driving a motor vehicle; smoking where prohibited; inciting unfounded fear and chaos; etc.) The Supreme Court of the United States has long upheld the principal that virtually no constitutional rights are absolute. Most fundamental constitutional rights are protected by the legal concept of "strict scrutiny" but can also be regulated to achieve a “compelling governmental interest.” In addition, the Supreme Court has also found that constitutional rights can be regulated for an even less pressing reason - demanding only a “sufficiently important interest.” I have no doubt that a government regulation calling for masks would, at a minimum, meet the threshold of a "sufficiently important government interest".

I'd be happy to discuss the Constitution with you in greater detail.

So in other words the Amendments mean nothing if the government decides it wants to curtail a certain activity.

Zum befehl, Seig Heil!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by guitarguy

People without a mask may have been through COVID and recovered. They are no danger. Why be angry with them for wearing no mask?
What will happen as we start taking a vaccine? Will some still expect them to wear a mask?

Every time I see someone without a mask I think they must have already had the virus and recovered. I try to believe the best of people. Having said that, I know that is a pipe dream with most people but I say nothing to no one.

[Gulfcoast]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I think that these masks are unsanitary and unhealthy for people (like retail workers) to be wearing for hours on end. There have been studies showing that wearing these masks increases the rate of respiratory infections because bacteria builds up and breeds in those masks over time.

I do not expect another human being to put their own health at risk to protect mine. If I want to feel safe I will avoid crowds, keep a distance from other people and wear a mask as I deem appropriate. I know that is not a popular opinion here. But that is my view on the subject.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Every time I see someone without a mask I think they must have already had the virus and recovered. I try to believe the best of people. Having said that, I know that is a pipe dream with most people but I say nothing to no one.

i am guilty of not wearing masks. but i really don't want to make you, or anyone else, sick. i stand almost 10 feet away, don't cough, sneeze or even breathe on anyone. in a store aisle, i will let you go first so you don't need to cross my path. i understand there are some who disagree, but to be honest to you, it's general fatigue. we've been @ this so long, --@ some point certain people will respond in a negative way. i was @ 3 superspreader events. thousands of sweaty screaming people packed in like sardines & i didnt get sick, thank God. i must've been exposed to something similar before, or was exposed & have immunity, i'm not sure.

[Art cov]

Yes, if he sticks to it, restaurant’s will be closed. Another said if they get their way, America will be changed. But we can have hope that it won’t happen! Yet. O in some states they are limiting the quantity of purchases, with uncertainty folks maybe stocking up on supplies.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by PugMom

i am guilty of not wearing masks. but i really don't want to make you, or anyone else, sick. i stand almost 10 feet away, don't cough, sneeze or even breathe on anyone. in a store aisle, i will let you go first so you don't need to cross my path. i understand there are some who disagree, but to be honest to you, it's general fatigue. we've been @ this so long, --@ some point certain people will respond in a negative way. i was @ 3 superspreader events. thousands of sweaty screaming people packed in like sardines & i didnt get sick, thank God. i must've been exposed to something similar before, or was exposed & have immunity, i'm not sure.

I hope you are right, and your good health and good luck may continue.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

I'm sorry but those rules are absolutely asinine. How on earth is that not a violation of constitutional rights? I've heard that a certain someone wants to make mask wearing mandatory nationwide - both indoors and outdoors. People not in compliance will face stiff fines. Pretty soon we'll be sunbathing and swimming in the ocean with masks slapped on our faces.

You have the right to congregate. You have the right to breathe. You do NOT have the right to congregate in close-quarter crowds. You do NOT have the right to breathe ON other people. Those are privileges that can be granted or removed as needed, to secure or increase the safety and well-being of #WeThePeople.

A national mask mandate will not likely be forthcoming, UNLESS the mandate is for all businesses that choose to open to the public and require masks on their customers, be required to provide masks to those customers if they ask for them.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by guitarguy

People without a mask may have been through COVID and recovered. They are no danger. Why be angry with them for wearing no mask?
What will happen as we start taking a vaccine? Will some still expect them to wear a mask?

There's this really amazing, unusual, fantastical thing called civilization. You might have heard of it - maybe not.

Thing is, when "people who don't WANT to wear masks but should" (that specific group of people) see a bunch of "people who don't NEED to wear masks anymore" (that specific group of people) not wearing masks, they don't know that the second group don't need to wear masks. They only know that they aren't wearing them.

And so they think "wow - masks aren't needed anymore, and I don't want to wear mine, so I'll take mine off!"

It's sort of the opposite of herd immunity. It's herd stupidity. And it's infectious.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I think that these masks are unsanitary and unhealthy for people (like retail workers) to be wearing for hours on end. There have been studies showing that wearing these masks increases the rate of respiratory infections because bacteria builds up and breeds in those masks over time.

I do not expect another human being to put their own health at risk to protect mine. If I want to feel safe I will avoid crowds, keep a distance from other people and wear a mask as I deem appropriate. I know that is not a popular opinion here. But that is my view on the subject.

I do not have to wear a mask all day for any reason so I am not personally affected by the possibility of becoming ill from wearing a mask for long periods of time. Having said that, I would certainly keep a box of the disposable masks handy so I could change the mask before it becomes very wet from my own breath. That is a quite simple solution for anyone who is prone to respiratory infections. It really is a "no brainer".

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Pettys1

Then you have a right not to go to those stores just like they have they right to go . You wear your mask don't worry bout what someone else is doing

Funny how scientists and epidemiologists worry about what someone else is doing. They are safeguarding public health. Do you grasp that concept?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Pettys1

You have no idea what people are saying if they don't wear a mask. If someone suffers from COPD to wear a mask makes it harder for them to breathe. For those who suffer from asthma could make them have an attack. For those who are claustrophobic it puts them in a panic. So you say well they should just stay home. Why? Maybe you should stay home in your bubble. People have the right to live. But I'm sure most of you would like those who impose on your " mask" wearing binge would rather not have people like this in society. In your eyes they have no right to even live.

Folks with respiratory conditions would be better off staying home to protect themselves. It is those folks who do not fair very well when they contract COVID.