[SacDQ]

HERE IS WHERE SOME OF THE VACCINE THE USA PUSHED TO APPROVE IS GOING.

Bloomberg report:

A Chinese drugmaker has secured 100 million doses of the coronavirus vaccine co-developed by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE, as the country seeks overseas shots in addition to home-made ones to ensure immunization for the world’s most populous nation.

Shanghai Fosun Pharmaceutical Group Co., which in March made an agreement with BioNTech to develop and market the mRNA shot in China, will make an advance payment of 250 million euros ($300 million) for an initial 50 million doses. The German vaccine maker will supply no fewer than 100 million doses for China by the end of 2021, Fosun said in a statement filed with the Hong Kong Stock Exchange Wednesday.

[Byte1]

Since there are NO doses left, arguing over who should get it first is a moot point. I heard one Congressman in D.C. demand that blacks should get the vaccination first because they are more susceptible to infection than others. Regardless of who is more vulnerable to exposure and infection, those that are in the age group of over 65 are more likely to perish if infected. Other factors are really secondary to that fact. There is absolutely no way they would be able to dispense the vaccine if they had to figure out which ailment is most vulnerable and put that at the top of the list. There would always be someone that has a worse condition.

[Florida20]

I agree, wish you could list health risks. My husband currently is dealing with cancer and blood clots both lungs but he gets no priority.

[Villages Kahuna]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Right at the top of the Florida Covid-19 Response page:
- Long-term care facility residents and staff
- Persons 65 years of age and older
- Health care personnel with direct patient contact
- Persons deemed to be extremely vulnerable to COVID-19 by hospital providers

Forget all the well-thought out sequencing recommended by the CDC. Our Governor decided to simplify it—65 or older an you’re good to go. Take it or leave it. Next chance I get, I’m leaving it.

[xcaligirl]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

That is the way it should be. The Florida priority for the first group is:

- healthcare personnel with direct patient contact
- residents and staff in longterm healthcare facilities
- adults aged 65 years of age and older

I don't think anyone other than the Governor has the right set a different priority. As far as I know, there is no special provision for people with a pre-existing medical condition.

I saw the same, no priority for people with existing conditions. (as said in the past to protect them). Also saw that it's for Florida residents, permanent or temporary and Florida VISITORS... Great idea, come to Florida, get a vaccination. I really like DeSantis however....

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Forget all the well-thought out sequencing recommended by the CDC. Our Governor decided to simplify it—65 or older an you’re good to go. Take it or leave it. Next chance I get, I’m leaving it.

CDC said a lot of crap, and have totally flipped on much of it. No one is forcing anyone to get the vaccination, but it is nice that it is free. Some feel that since they do not believe they have conditions that would make the virus dangerous/fatal, they would rather catch it and be done with it, rather than get the vaccination. But, like the Flu vaccination doctors are recommending that seniors get it.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by xcaligirl

I saw the same, no priority for people with existing conditions. (as said in the past to protect them). Also saw that it's for Florida residents, permanent or temporary and Florida VISITORS... Great idea, come to Florida, get a vaccination. I really like DeSantis however....

Explain how they would figure out who had what conditions and how it would rank on the list? No one would be getting the vaccination because they would not be able to even get started on a list. They did the right thing by going according to the death ratio to age. Once they get most of the seniors taken care of, then they can start having the doctors distribute the vaccine according to their judgement. Everyone is eligible for the flu shot and so will they be eligible for the Covid shot. Folks just have to be patient. I know at least 10 people that have survived the virus and only two that supposedly tested positive for the virus when they went into the hospital for operations and didn't survive. Whether it was the virus or the operation or both, only the Good Lord knows for sure. I have no doubt that if I catch the virus, I will survive. But, I will get the shot when offered so that I can protect my spouse. I have no fear of the virus, other than what it might do to those that I care about that are weaker or at risk.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by sallyg

It would appear registration is allowed only for the age bracket 65 and older. Since vaccination has been suspended at Sumter except for those with scheduled appts, it's all moot. Hope more doses arrive soon.

Even those with scheduled appointments are not guaranteed to get the vaccine. The appointments for the first shot are all on hold. The letter I read from GMR says that those who have appointments for their second shot will be notified if they need to have their appointments changed. For now, those appointments for the second shots are being kept. This does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling that I will receive my second shot when it is due.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Perhaps managing by birth date would seem to be the only common basis....all other pre existing conditions would be nigh onto impossible to categorize/apply.

I thought about that too. Seems daunting to try to categorize who is more needy depending on health issues. Age is something that can be easily proven with ID. Health issues? How do you prove that?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by yankygrl

Not sure how they exactly are prioritizing but I think it is NOT by age but by when you registered. I am over 65 but not yet near 70 and I received my immunization Thursday after registering on Monday.

Yes, it is by age. OVER 65.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by yankygrl

I don’t remember if they asked if you have underlying conditions on initial registration, only allergies

No, GMR did not ask about any health issues.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by yankygrl

But did he register or did you just try to game the system?

Yes, he tried to register on line. His request was immediately not accepted. It was at the location that we explained his health issues and was still told "no". We tried but were shot down.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by john352

I recently read several posted comments about suspected anomalies in the scheduling priorities for the Safe Restart Site COVID vaccination site on CR-466 for 65 and older people; to some, they appear to have a scheduling priority that is different from giving the first-registered priority.

For the last 300 days, I have been analyzing the published COVID data from the state of Florida; I hope that Safe Restart is given a higher priority to the older people in the group of 65 and older.

The following information is based on the data for the state of Florida over the 61-day period of Oct 28 to Dec 27 Over that period, there were 4,661 new COVID deaths and 473,861 new cases reported for all age groups; the ratio of deaths to cases (D/C) is 0.98%. However, for the 65 and older group the D/C ratio is 5.4%; for the group under 65, the ratio is 0.18%. This implies that, if you are in the 65+ group and test positive, you are 29 times more likely to die than if you were in the group under 65. These numbers should make obvious why DeSantis gave priority to the 65+ group.

Now let us look at the age subgroups in the 65-and-over group. The D/C ratio for the 65-74 years group is 2.3%; 75-84 years, 6.8%; 85+ years, 15.8%. The data implies that, if you are in the group of 85+ that tests positive for COVID, there is a 15.8% chance that you will die; whereas, if you in the group of 65-74 years old there is only a 2.33% chance that you will die. In other words, if you in the 85+ group you are 6.8 times more likely to die if you have COVID than the 65-74 group.

I do not know how Safe Restart is prioritizing the appointments; however, it should be obvious that they should be giving oldest people in the 65 and over group priority. Safe Restart’s registration form did not request any preexisting medical condition, like COPD; but, we know that those people should have priority for receiving the vaccine.

I am thankful that I am not making the decisions. No matter who or what makes the decision people will have valid objections.

Average age in the villages is 70. Coincidence, as of Dec, I am exactly average.
I have a LEGITIMATE reason why I should be a priority. I registered, I have only my code number. No one asked about pre-existing conditions or for proof that you have them.
They did ask for a medicare card so you have proved you are 65 or more. Did they check your medical condition. I doubt it. I don't even think they can legally without you giving your permission in writing. We did get a form e-mail that they have run out of vaccines but we will keep our place in line. I did contact my doctor's office and was told they have not gotten any vaccines and they guess they will have them in March or so.

Others have gotten shots we are on line waiting for an e-mail to set up an appointment .
Priority? It is a two shot vaccine. People who got the first shot are supposed to get a second in I think it is three weeks. Will they decide to give people who got the first shot,
WON THE RACE, get priority for the second shot. Nothing is or ever will be perfect-fair..

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by xcaligirl

I saw the same, no priority for people with existing conditions. (as said in the past to protect them). Also saw that it's for Florida residents, permanent or temporary and Florida VISITORS... Great idea, come to Florida, get a vaccination. I really like DeSantis however....

Seriously? Florida will vaccinate people from other states? Is that because this is a federal program?

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Byte1

CDC said a lot of crap, and have totally flipped on much of it. No one is forcing anyone to get the vaccination, but it is nice that it is free. Some feel that since they do not believe they have conditions that would make the virus dangerous/fatal, they would rather catch it and be done with it, rather than get the vaccination. But, like the Flu vaccination doctors are recommending that seniors get it.

Re: rather get the virus and be done with it.
We have so much conflicting information. For one thing lasting immunity is it the same for the vaccine or getting the virus and surviving it.

Old school. Am I the only one who remembers the moms would have a meeting. Johnny got the measles or the mumps. There was no vaccine you would go over to play with Johnny and get it over and done with. If, it wasn't you it was your brother or your sister. Small pox vaccine? They didn't even know about germs. They knew if they stuck
a needle in the sore and then stuck others with it they would get small pox and be done with it Some, not many died from this as they knew to only give you a little.

We seek, we demand perfect and quick. Reality does not work that way.