[Jimturner]

Originally Posted by CFrance

You don't have to identify yourself. I think what put people off was the posting of a very strong story and then disappearing from the thread, not answering questions. That has happened before on the forum, and it tends to make people suspicious. I now remember the story of your screen not being latched, and perhaps if you had supplied that information earlier on it would have helped people believe in your credibility.

Again, sorry about your cats.

Hi C France.

You have great understanding of how these web sites operate or in some cases fail to represent fact. Unfortunately, some feel their way of posting should represent every poster. Some have so many posts they have became numb to the reality of the new poster and often doubt their truthfulness. I believe we should always believe others posts and intentions rather than doubting their honesty and insulting their credibility. This TOTV site is for everyone, not just the old timers.

[su2009]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Beautiful cats - I am very sorry for your loss.
We back on Churchill Greens and I have seen one coyote in five years. However he was very shy and afraid of people.
Have you seen coyotes on the Kenya Golf course after dark or during the day?
We obviously all need to be careful about these predators who seem to be growing bolder.

Thank you for your kind words. My experience with seeing coyotes on this golf course twice - once before I lost Teo, and once after - should have forewarned me of trouble to come, and I regret terribly that I did not perceive the danger.

I saw three coyotes, one large and two slightly smaller, walk down the golf course, about forty feet in from the boundary of the course, at about 8 p.m. on November 14, 2014, two months before I lost Teo. Unfortunately, I did not realize those coyotes might be a threat to a cat on a screened-in room, and after Teo disappeared January, I felt it was due to my fault in not checking to make sure the screen door had been tightly latched before I went to bed.

On August 3, 2015, about 1 p.m., my neighbor two houses up called to let me know that a coyote was making its way down the back yards of the houses on the golf course side of Bramble Terrace. As we spoke, the coyote arrived in our back yard. From the body shape, it looked like it might be a young female, as it was slender and not very heavily muscled. This coyote came up onto our patio in the daylight, stared briefly into our lanai, then moved off and sniffed carefully through the bushes in the back and next to the side of our house before moving down to the bushes in back of the house next door. It was drizzling, but coyotes have a very oily coat and she did not look even slightly wet – her ears were up and her bushy tail was full and not bedraggled at all. I called for my husband and he walked over and stared out the window at her, but she either did not see him or did not care. After a few minutes, she then left and went further down the golf course. Then she went between the sides of two houses, and I lost sight of her.

While standing on our patio, that coyote did not paw at the screen or latch or make any other effort to get into our lanai, and again, even though I had already lost Teo by then, I failed to perceive that there might be a danger to a cat on the lanai if the door was latched and all screens intact. That's the reason I wanted to let other pet owners know what just happened. It's too late for me, but at least others might have a better chance of keeping their beloved pets safe. If I'd read about animals tearing big holes in lanais to get at cats, I never would have let either cat go on the lanai without me.

[Boomer]

I wish I had made it more clear in my posts that I was trying to come to the OP's defense. I should not have been subtle. This thread went beyond cringeworthy as more and more insult was heaped upon a terrible injury.

OP, I am sorry this happened to you. All of it.

It was responsible and thoughtful of you to warn others to be more aware.

I do not know what makes some posters sometimes seem so eager to pounce. TOTV used to be a nicer place. (sigh)

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by su2009

Thank you for your kind words. My experience with seeing coyotes on this golf course twice - once before I lost Teo, and once after - should have forewarned me of trouble to come, and I regret terribly that I did not perceive the danger.

I saw three coyotes, one large and two slightly smaller, walk down the golf course, about forty feet in from the boundary of the course, at about 8 p.m. on November 14, 2014, two months before I lost Teo. Unfortunately, I did not realize those coyotes might be a threat to a cat on a screened-in room, and after Teo disappeared January, I felt it was due to my fault in not checking to make sure the screen door had been tightly latched before I went to bed.

On August 3, 2015, about 1 p.m., my neighbor two houses up called to let me know that a coyote was making its way down the back yards of the houses on the golf course side of Bramble Terrace. As we spoke, the coyote arrived in our back yard. From the body shape, it looked like it might be a young female, as it was slender and not very heavily muscled. This coyote came up onto our patio in the daylight, stared briefly into our lanai, then moved off and sniffed carefully through the bushes in the back and next to the side of our house before moving down to the bushes in back of the house next door. It was drizzling, but coyotes have a very oily coat and she did not look even slightly wet – her ears were up and her bushy tail was full and not bedraggled at all. I called for my husband and he walked over and stared out the window at her, but she either did not see him or did not care. After a few minutes, she then left and went further down the golf course. Then she went between the sides of two houses, and I lost sight of her.

While standing on our patio, that coyote did not paw at the screen or latch or make any other effort to get into our lanai, and again, even though I had already lost Teo by then, I failed to perceive that there might be a danger to a cat on the lanai if the door was latched and all screens intact. That's the reason I wanted to let other pet owners know what just happened. It's too late for me, but at least others might have a better chance of keeping their beloved pets safe. If I'd read about animals tearing big holes in lanais to get at cats, I never would have let either cat go on the lanai without me.

I don't think you can fault yourself for not making a connection between seeing a coyote in November, and a potential danger to kitty on a screened in lanai in January. As an attorney, you would object "Assumes facts not in evidence"
We have/had a 16 year old black cat that has never left our yard all her life (about an acre of property) She loved being outside except when there was 5 feet of snow on the ground. She disappeared about 10 days ago, no idea of how or where. I searched the entire property and house, even the gutter of the road in case she was hit by a motorist with no sense of morality, but nothing. She has identification on her collar, but with Halloween approaching, you never know if someone wanted a black cat. I saw a red fox in our backyard about 6 months ago, but I never would have kept her inside just because I saw one, I think the situation is similar to yours. I'd like to keep hoping she'll come back, but that hope is fading. So you see I am sincerely in my sorrow for your loss

[Jimturner]

Originally Posted by Boomer

I wish I had made it more clear in my two posts above that I was trying to come to the OP's defense. I should not have been subtle. This thread went beyond cringeworthy as more and more insult was heaped upon a terrible injury.

OP, I am sorry this happened to you. All of it.

It was responsible and thoughtful of you to warn others to be more aware.

I do not know what makes some posters sometimes seem so eager to pounce. TOTV used to be fun. (sigh)

Hopefully we can learn from this and stop with comments like I'm skeptical. Hold your personal thoughts if they may be false and hurt someone. I have had threads that were misunderstood and the hurtful comments cuts pretty deep.
Once again sorry for your loved ones being taken so prematurely. I have had to put down pets at the end of their quality of life and it still hurts like hell itself.

[Fraugoofy]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I have heard of three different cats now taken from lanais in Lynnhaven alone. All in Lynnhaven and in about the same area. Near the Belmont Golf Course holes 3 and 4 but extended maybe a 500 ft radius from those points. This also includes the Churchill Downs Rec Center and the Lynnhaven Postal Center.

I have seen a coyote on the Belmont Golf Course. Golf The Villages This was a few years ago at about 7:45 AM while I was walking my former dog Sport near the Lynnhaven Postal Center. The coyote ran 20 feet in front of us in a big hurry to get away from all the people on the golf course. It did surprise a lot of golfers on Belmont.

The rumors though are that it could have been a coyote or a bobcat that snatched these now three Lynnhaven cats. Three different houses have been identified to me. I do not know how accurate this information is. The only first hand account is by the Saluda Street couple in the news source which must not be named. Their cat was taken on Friday night, October 2-3, 2015.

We live in Lynnhaven and saw a coyote on Thursday night (10/1/2015) on our way home from the Square about 915pm. He ran 20 feet in front of our car. At first we thought it was a skinny dog, but then we realized it was a coyote...

[Jimturner]

I live in duval and am confronted by a coyote once or twice a week in my front yard. I don't feel threatened but if my cats were in the yard, it would be fur and blood for sure. These flea infested scavengers will kill and eat anything they can overpower like cats and children.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Jimturner

Hopefully we can learn from this and stop with comments like I'm skeptical. Hold your personal thoughts if they may be false and hurt someone. I have had threads that were misunderstood and the hurtful comments cuts pretty deep.
Once again sorry for your loved ones being taken so prematurely. I have had to put down pets at the end of their quality of life and it still hurts like hell itself.

And I retain the right to voice skepticism whenever I feel it, whether it's further proven wrong or not. If I'm proven wrong, I'll back off. But this is a forum. People are allowed to voice their opinions, as long as they are not direct attacks. Moderators will determine and remove direct attacks.

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by Jimturner

Hopefully we can learn from this and stop with comments like I'm skeptical. Hold your personal thoughts if they may be false and hurt someone. I have had threads that were misunderstood and the hurtful comments cuts pretty deep.
Once again sorry for your loved ones being taken so prematurely. I have had to put down pets at the end of their quality of life and it still hurts like hell itself.

Sorry, I know people who live on this street. I will remain skeptical. Just sayin.

[tomwed]

Call me a cynic or maybe even an anti-postite but I only trust people with a couple of hundred posts under their belt. By than you are family and you can expect that I will be teasing you or inviting you to tease me.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by tomwed

Call me a cynic or maybe even an anti-postite but I only trust people with a couple of hundred posts under their belt. By than you are family and you can expect that I will be teasing you or inviting you to tease me.

Why don't you like the Post Office?

[tomwed]

[QUOTE=dbussone;1124372]Why don't you like the Post Office?
I miss the old stamps.
My mom used to collect S&H Green Stamps. Once a week we use to sit down together and I would lick the stamps and she would put them in the book. I think the glue did something to me.
[this story would make her laugh for hours]

[dbussone]

[QUOTE=tomwed;1124378]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Why don't you like the Post Office?
I miss the old stamps.
My mom used to collect S&H Green Stamps. Once a week we use to sit down together and I would lick the stamps and she would put them in the book. I think the glue did something to me.

I agree. By the way I well remember the S&H stamps. We used to shop at the A&P which had the stamps.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by Jimturner

I live in duval and am confronted by a coyote once or twice a week in my front yard. I don't feel threatened but if my cats were in the yard, it would be fur and blood for sure. These flea infested scavengers will kill and eat anything they can overpower like cats and children.

Kill and eat children?

[golfing eagles]

[QUOTE=dbussone;1124381]

Originally Posted by tomwed

I agree. By the way I well remember the S&H stamps. We used to shop at the A&P which had the stamps.

I think A&P had Plaid stamps, shop rite had green stamps. But this is so far back it was my Mom collecting them