[Lindsyburnsy]

If all the fatal car accidents happened within a 2 month period, then yes, you would have to think about driving habits. Not apples and oranges comparison.

[JonWilliams]

Originally Posted by DecaturFargo

Not sure what figures you're looking at but our numbers are still going up, not down. What's your hurry?

Another day with no new COVID-19 cases in The Villages. 70 in Sumter County portion, 7 in Lake County portion, 1 in Marion County portion. Not a single new case so far this month.

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The cases by city and county begin on page 6, listed in order by number of cases, so you have to scroll a ways to find The Villages.

A big part of the rationale for the lockdown/stay-at-home was that estimates of cases (e.g., Cuomo, 200,000+ in NY) was taken to mean that a like number of hospital beds and ventilators would be required. Thankfully, that turned out not to be true. In Florida, of 39,514 cases to date, 7,171 (18%) required hospitalization. 1,721 deceased (4.4%). Same source as above.

At the same time, there is considerable evidence of deteriorating health in other areas, which provides a strong rationale for reopening in an intelligent way. This includes, as I have posted in the Health Forum, young children not keeping wellness appointments (20 to 30% of normal) thus forgoing vaccinations for potentially fatal childhood diseases; emergency room visits occurring at 40 to 50% of normal, including for heart attacks which normally increase when there is an increase in respiratory illness; opiod deaths increasing; cancer patients unable to get elective surgery (thankfully this last seems to be ending as states relax their rules). Sources for these statements as posted in the Health Forum

The nation is paying a dire cost for the lockdown orders. It is now time for those who are most vulnerable to continue to shelter in place while the rest of the country returns to normal.

[JonWilliams]

The "404 not found" citation is Home | Florida Disaster, click on Latest Information on COVID--19, then on Daily Report.

[Cheapbas]

Originally Posted by Swoop

The goal of staying home, wearing masks and social distancing was to “flatten the curve”. It was never about eradicating the virus - it was about not overrunning hospital ICU units. We have achieved that goal. Those same experts who suggested flattening the curve, told us back then that it would save lives by not over taxing our healthcare facilities. It was not about preventing people from getting the virus, just about reducing the chances of everyone getting it at once. We have done that. That was the reason for the lockdown, but people have forgotten that. Mission accomplished, now it is time to move on.

We have a different goal here in the villages.

It’s keep your name off of a park bench.

Stop trying to sell this “goal achieved” thing and suggest we should be “moving on”. We are not at a green light.

look at the Revised death toll estimates

The president just up’d his death toll estimates 2x to 120k. The CDC along with some wiz MIT Modeler think 261k by august.

the Governor Recently said 85% of the deaths in this state were over 65. The average age in TV is around 72.

Let individuals here make their own decisions, you shouldn’t be encouraging anything.

[JonWilliams]

For a thoughtful essay on the tradeoffs between maintaining the shutdown and reopening, to to The Atlantic and search for the article titled "Take the Shutdown Skeptics Seriously."

Here's a sample "The general point is that minimizing the number of COVID-19 deaths today or a month from now or six months from now may or may not minimize the human costs of the pandemic when the full spectrum of human consequences is considered."

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by MOMOH

Just because the curve is flattening, and you will be able to get into a hospital for care, doesn't mean that you will be able to be cured. The problem with this disease is that in many cases it can't be cured and you only get into the hospital for them to try. Until there's a vaccine or cure this isn't over.

Sure they are working on a vaccine, but they have been working on one for the SARS strain of the Covid virus for 18 years. How long are you prepared to be shut down for?

[Luvs21putt]

Yes, and they will have to monitor whether certain locations are headed for trouble. Otherwise, open back up

millions are losing their jobs, their small businesses built on hard work and sacrifice. Big businesses are going under. Hospitals are going under. People will lose their homes, And not be able to feed their families. This is a train wreck if we don’t open back up. You personally, are going to have to pay for it all when the country goes down the tubes. The “government” is funded by YOU. Just hope that we can fund our national defense And social security. There are lots of consequences to not opening back up. You can’t have such a narrow focus. We don’t shut down the country to keep people from dying of the flu; even though this is worse we still can’t just shut the country down indefinitely

[tvbound]

I personally wish the herd immunity crowd would just be more honest and call it what it really is.

Since the concept is to make the herd stronger by eliminating the old, weak, sick or otherwise medically compromised, just call it what it is - "thinning the herd."

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by Swoop

The goal of staying home, wearing masks and social distancing was to “flatten the curve”. It was never about eradicating the virus - it was about not overrunning hospital ICU units. We have achieved that goal. Those same experts who suggested flattening the curve, told us back then that it would save lives by not over taxing our healthcare facilities. It was not about preventing people from getting the virus, just about reducing the chances of everyone getting it at once. We have done that. That was the reason for the lockdown, but people have forgotten that. Mission accomplished, now it is time to move on.

Absolutely

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Cheapbas

We have a different goal here in the villages.

It’s keep your name off of a park bench.

Stop trying to sell this “goal achieved” thing and suggest we should be “moving on”. We are not at a green light.

look at the Revised death toll estimates

The president just up’d his death toll estimates 2x to 120k. The CDC along with some wiz MIT Modeler think 261k by august.

the Governor Recently said 85% of the deaths in this state were over 65. The average age in TV is around 72.

Let individuals here make their own decisions, you shouldn’t be encouraging anything.

I’m suggesting that the governor let people make their own decisions. Maintaining the lockdown takes away people’s options. The reason the restrictions were put in place was to flatten the curve. If the governor lifts the restrictions you are more than welcome to continue them. Continue to stay at home, wear a mask & don’t go to restaurants, gyms, or other non essential stores.

[Heather296]

People HAVE forgotten that. It drives me crazy. Some people saying things should be shut down until there’s a vaccine. This virus is highly contagious, not highly deadly. 🤦*♀️

[Beyond The Wall]

Go to ANY STATES website for stats.

[Jacob85]

Flattening the curve does not mean the virus is gone, so this is correct. I for one don’t want to be one of those people hospitalized with better treatment because that doesn’t mean you will survive. I guess that’s why the death rate predicted has gone up.

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

Thank you. Now we can go back to being normal? We still have to be vigilant and practice safety first.

[karostay]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Recheck what data? The concept of flattening the curve is to keep the level cases below the point where ICU units aren’t overloaded. They aren’t - anywhere in the country. Even NY which was the hardest hit state by far, has plenty of capacity. They have sent the hospital ship Comfort away because it’s not needed.

Only because Mayor of NY sent patients to nursing homes
That were in no way a medical facility properly equipped to handle Covid patients

How did that work out..Their Dead

Wasn't because the ship wasn't needed