[joannej]

Originally Posted by Pturner

K9, I so agree with you about this. TOTVers commented about Michael Vick (before trial) and Tiger Woods. We comment about people on reality shows. Why would we have no interest in what the media is reporting about the developer of TV? I don't understand that.

I understand criticism of the slant of the Orlando Sentinels' article. I don't understand objections to subjecting the article for comment on TOTV. Some said the article did not contain new information, although it actually contained new information about affidavits that were filed in the case.

Shadow was asked why he posted it. He answered that he posted it because he thought TOTVers would be interested. (Apparently he was right.) He was later accused of not answering the question. It might not be the answer people wanted. People might not believe him. People might have already made up their minds why he posted it. OK. But he gave an answered and still stands accused of not doing so.

Are we shooting the messenger because we don't want to know what we don't want to know? If not for this reason, why?

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[pooh]

Originally Posted by Pturner

Loonlovers, welcome. Please don't be discouraged. As Pooh noted, this issue has drawn passionate opinions on several fronts.

Pooh is a dear friend of mine. I truly love her. Gracie too. The fact that we to see this particular issue differently does not diminish my esteem, admiration or love for them. I hope and believe that they don't think less of me either.

I do try to explain my reasonings for my views such that people can understand my perspective whether or not they agree. However, I
hope that I will never express an opinion with such certainty, lack of humility and/or hostility toward the other side that friendship and respect becomes strained or impossible. I think some of the political threads get that way and I avoid them. I hope this thread didn't strike you that way. If I ever do anything like that, I hope someone will take a chainsaw to what is left of my P(ea) brain. Or at least take me aside and let me know that I've crossed a line.

Please don't think ill of us, Loonlovers. We mean well.

Vive la difference.....without which, this place could become very boring.

Love ya, too!

[K9-Lovers]

Methinks that justifying our actions, a common human frailty, could be considered the eighth deadly sin.

Me also thinks that Ms. Manners would approve of agreeing to disagree.

If I may borrow part of a phrase from PTurner, "The fact that we see this particular issue differently does not diminish my esteem, admiration or love for . . ." those who disagree with me, or those by whom I am offended.

[pooh]

Originally Posted by K9-Lovers

Methinks that justifying our actions, a common human frailty, could be considered the eighth deadly sin.

Me also thinks that Ms. Manners would approve of agreeing to disagree.

If I may borrow part of a phrase from PTurner, "The fact that we see this particular issue differently does not diminish my esteem, admiration or love for . . ." those who disagree with me, or those by whom I am offended.

PT can turn a phrase so to speak, can't she. She's right, we can disagree and still feel esteem, admiration, respect and love for our friends here.

[redwitch]

The main reason I don't believe there is any reason for this thread is that it is NOT about Mark Morse, the story is really about Rainey and we really should be careful to not confuse the two. Plus, the title of the thread is as sensational as any found in the grocery store tabloids.

It seems the actions we find most objectionable -- the cutting off the head and leaving the carcass; the dressing of the legs to get a better photo -- were done by Rainey. Morse hunted out of season, he hunted without a license, he fraudulently attributed a kill to another's license. So far as we know, he did not waste any meat. The ranch where the carcasses were found was owned by both Morse and Rainey, so Morse may truly have been innocent of those vile actions.

What I can't understand is why Mark Morse's fines are potentially higher than Rainey's. I get the feeling the whole story isn't out yet. But I want the story on Morse, not Rainey.

[Ajack]

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Originally Posted by Ajack

Random Thoughts:

...........Been watching the television series, The Tudors. Now those were the days. When a Noble or other prominent citizen received the sentence of death, the townsfolk would show up for the free entertainment. Beheading, hanging, burned at the stake, the audience was thrilled to liven up their dreary existence. They yelled and hooted and whistled and had a jolly good time.

Come to think of it, they did the same kind of stuff in the Mel Gibson movie, Braveheart. I guess there is something in our nature that likes to see the rich and powerful fall.............

I for one, take no pleasure in seeing the rich and powerful fall. I am interested in seeing justice for the arrogant and selfish, whether rich, poor, or middle class. There are many wealthy people, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, and Michael Bloomberg come to mind, that take the responsibility of their wealth very seriously, and attempt to do some good for mankind as a whole.

You are interested in seeing justice for the arrogant and selfish? Is it against the law to be arrogant? We would lose a few of our TOTV members if that is the case. Who would judge the arrogant?
Again, is it against the law to be selfish?

Do you know Bill Gates? You don't grow to be the richest man alive by being a fool. It takes business savvy. When did Mr. Gates decide to be ungreedy? You have to be fairly "greedy" to accumulate wealth, no? Rumors are that he wasn't always doing good for mankind. Maybe he started to give money away for PR? Maybe it is a tax write-off?
When your worth billions and billions, what's giving a few away really mean? I bet he wasn't giving alot of money away when he was as poor as Mr. Morse?

I guess rich is relative? My point is that life is more complicated and the more money you have the more complicated it gets. Who would be in a position to judge a rich man? You? Me? If he is judged by his "peers," do we have to find zillionaires to be on the jury?
Ok.I'm through with my little rant. Back to your regularly scheduled activity.

[K9-Lovers]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Ok.I'm through with my little rant. Back to your regularly scheduled activity.

Whew! Me, too. I'm finished also! It feels good to get those kind of things off your chest.

But, there's one thing that still makes me feel badly. I just figured out that I have been rude, too, by pointing out that someone else was rude.

So, please forgive me TOTV buddies, if I get carried away sometimes. Having conversations, disagreements, and sharing viewpoints with all of you is so enjoyable, sometimes I may say more than I should.

[Ajack]

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But, there's one thing that still makes me feel badly. I just figured out that I have been rude, too, by pointing out that someone else was rude.

I find myself a little rough around the edges. I am really trying to see the other guys point of view. It isn't always easy in the heat of the moment.
Some people get crusty when they age. I am trying to do it in reverse order. I figure by the time I'm 120 years old, I should be mellow.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by pooh

And as you said, there are two active threads on this particular topic already, why not post in one of those threads.

Honestly, I just don't understand why members question the right of other members to start a thread. Why not comment on the topic or ignore the thread? Adding your posts to a thread you find distastefuly simply prolongs its life.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Honestly, I just don't understand why members question the right of other members to start a thread. Why not comment on the topic or ignore the thread? Adding your posts to a thread you find distastefuly simply prolongs its life.

That would be me Bare. I was the first to question. Probably because I am old and stupid and probably because I hated the words of the title. (made me cringe) and probably because I still feel so bad to find that Mark Morse and/or his family members and guests broke the law. AND I didn't have to read it...but I did. AND I didn't have to respond, but I did.

And maybe..........actually...

Shadow, sometimes you seem so Shadowy.

Answer the question, Can you show your birth certificate and do you live somewhere here in The Villages? (JUST kidding on the first request)

Because...now that I find out that the Morses aren't perfect...I would be glad to know that you too have a place in their almost perfect place for people of a certain age...a place that makes them feel that they aren't of a certain age. But, I ask again..do you have a home in The villages?

Worse yet Shadow...I have to ask. ARE YOU OLD??? Because the more you fill in the details of your life, the more I like you. Would YOU care for a cookie?

[Ajack]

The whippersnapper might answer your question when he comes back into the house from playing in the sandbox.

I think he is looking for more dirt. (all in the spirit of kidding, of course)

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

That would be me Bare. I was the first to question. Probably because I am old and stupid and probably because I hated the words of the title. (made me cringe) and probably because I still feel so bad to find that Mark Morse and/or his family members and guests broke the law. AND I didn't have to read it...but I did. AND I didn't have to respond, but I did.

And maybe..........actually...

Shadow, sometimes you seem so Shadowy.

Answer the question, Can you show your birth certificate and do you live somewhere here in The Villages? (JUST kidding on the first request)

Because...now that I find out that the Morses aren't perfect...I would be glad to know that you too have a place in their almost perfect place for people of a certain age...a place that makes them feel that they aren't of a certain age. But, I ask again..do you have a home in The villages?

Worse yet Shadow...I have to ask. ARE YOU OLD??? Because the more you fill in the details of your life, the more I like you. Would YOU care for a cookie?

What I am willing to tell you is this has not one, not one thing to do with this thread. You all complain about starting a new thread and you post stuff that is irrelevant. My age has nothing to do with pouching in Montana.

But because I do not want to read 14 posts about how I owe you an explanation I will tell you this.

I am aware I am monitored by management they have told me so.

I am really, really big on free speech nobody tells me what to say I do avoid crossing a line that will result in unwanted consequences. I like topics with facts like Montana, IRS, Gates. I am not interested in threads on how to train your dog to poop in a plastic bag.

As to the personal questions about my body….
It is senior in nature it houses a teenager within it is male with all appendages in working order, none smoking, none drinking, it has a hot tub craving.

Would I like a cookie? I have a preference for muffins.

Where do I live? At the risk of getting my house TPed by the TV clowns.
************************************************** *********************************** I will have SOMETHING hanging on the pole light. We also have a black ***** *** parked in the driveway.

Now let’s get back to pouching in Montana.

That is some funny stuff.

[redwitch]

Do they have kangaroos in Montana? I know they have some other marsupials, so I guess we can discuss their pouches if you'd like. Probably be a lot more fun than the ugliness of poaching.

[redwitch]

And, folks, be aware that that is NOT The Shadow's home -- that's Gracie's. Shame on yer! (But it is funny, sorry, Grace.)

Originally Posted by redwitch

And, folks, be aware that that is NOT The Shadow's home -- that's Gracie's. Shame on yer! (But it is funny, sorry, Grace.)

It looked like the Shadow visited gracie's home on one of her get togethers from the Thank You in one of Shadow's posts. https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...94&postcount=3

This is a very interesting take on the poaching case against the Morse family and friends. The Comments are also worth a look. They seem less ****ed off than the Comments from the Orlando Sentinel.

Video-- http://www.kulr8.com/news/local/Mont...?video=pop&t=a

Comments on Morse poaching cases-- http://www.kulr8.com/news/local/Mont...ml#commentform