[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix

Since you laid on your horn with gusto, I assume you believe that you were in the right and I the wrong.

Of course she thought she was "in the right". Like all of us, she is an old codger who thought the world revolves around her and got irritated when you were in her way.

Her honking at you shows that while she is an aggressive driver, she has enough sense to be alert when driving thru a roundabout, which is good. I am a slow driver and I get honked a lot, so I am used to it.

[bluedivergirl]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

A lot of problems could be avoided, if people understood that they cannot cross a solid line...whether it be yellow OR white.

Yes. My dad drove truck for decades, and taught me to think of a solid line as a brick wall.

[SoHumble]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

A lot of problems could be avoided, if people understood that they cannot cross a solid line...whether it be yellow OR white.

Also, keep in mind that anytime you cross a broken line, you are entering another lane. You must signal and make sure it is clear to make the lane change.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by LitespeedRider

I had a typo- my rights as a cyclist it to the LEFT of the white line. As for state law -
"
As of 2011, the lane position and bike lane law include an exception for avoiding a potentially unsafe condition. This is significant in that it allows bicyclists to anticipate dynamic conditions which have the potential to make a bike lane or far right lane position unsafe."

I for one find the golf cart lane FAR more unsafe than the lane of traffic. Plus, the carts are simply too slow, do not signal and are not mandated to have abilities (such as vision) to drive.

The order is...walkers, horses, cyclists (non motorized)..and then cars.

As for cyclists in TV...I have seen a few of the clubs ride. They need not wonder why it is they are hated on the roads (three and four abreast and on and on)

Same rights---now I agree with you

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Originally Posted by LitespeedRider

I have more rights to the road than a car...and if a driver really wants to may some medical bills and just over $15k for a bike (plus damages)...we can have at it. :-)

I saw someone exercising those super rights around 11am today. Someone wearing a red Litespeed cycling outfit blew the stop sign coming out of Savannah Center onto El Camino Real. This caused the car in the right lane to move left slightly into my lane which in turn caused me to have to brake a little. I doubt if it was you because I don't think someone who self-defines themselves as a cyclist and who owns a $15K bike would have that big a beer gut.

[LitespeedRider]

Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix

This caused the car in the right lane to move left slightly into my lane which in turn caused me to have to brake a little.

There is a stop sign - at the path, not the road (it also is not an official traffic control device)...but, riding like the crazy I am...if you only had to move "a little" I am shocked.... :-)

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by LitespeedRider

...I have more rights to the road than a car...

???

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Lovey2

Exactly!! My brother is just moving here, and last time in the car with him I nearly fainted. He calmly went into the circle while someone was in the inside lane. I yelped, and he told me, calm down, we have lots of circles in NJ, I know how to use them! I told him Toto, you are NOT in NJ anymore!! These circles are different and you would be wise to simply stay out of a circle until it is clear. Never trust someone is going to stay in or use the proper lane. It's a free for all usually and you have to be mindful of your own vehicle.

Also, tell Toto to note the signs before each roundabout that indicate which lane you should be in when you exit.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by bluedivergirl

Yes. My dad drove truck for decades, and taught me to think of a solid line as a brick wall.

Excellent way to view it.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by LitespeedRider

I left my home not two hours ago - hit by a car on my bicycle....just home from the police/fire/ambulance...I will create the same type of image off of Google Earth....this was a very purposeful "mirror hit" while I was in the cart lane (to the left of the cart lane)....only...I got the plate number....and so did the police.....oh, my driver also had a very impressive horn.....once I get the full police report (as it is public record) I will post name and license plate number (that I honestly forget now, but calling 911 it was the first thing I said).

Have a safe day all - the rumors about "them" (snowbirds) seem to so far be 100% accurate....

Holy smokes. I sure hope you are doing well. Sounds like you are. I try to give bike riders a wide berth. Car vs bike is never a good thing.


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[spring_chicken]

Originally Posted by LitespeedRider

There is a stop sign - at the path, not the road (it also is not an official traffic control device)...but, riding like the crazy I am...if you only had to move "a little" I am shocked.... :-)

There IS a stop sign where the poster said the cycler was coming from "blew the stop sign coming out of Savannah Center onto El Camino Real." Said stop sign is in your photo.
The reading comprehension skills here lead me to believe I'm back in 5th grade. But then, so do many posts...

[Matzy]

I think we should just accept that we all users of public roads, streets. As I user I will accept that I am not alone, and all kind of "Rights" I have to share with all others. Just common sense. If you understand that you are not alone and accept all others you'll be a good driver in my eyes.
The problem 'HOW to drive safely' I can't explain here, it comes with experience to drive and to "see" what the other driver(s) are doing, in other words, pay full attention to all things around yourself. (I drove more than 5 million miles in Europe, North-/South America, Asia and North-Africa, Rome, Paris, London and Germany included in my life so far).
And, I must admit, that I saw a lot of very good drivers in TV, but also (minority) the crazy ones.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by LitespeedRider

I had a typo- my rights as a cyclist it to the LEFT of the white line. As for state law -
"
As of 2011, the lane position and bike lane law include an exception for avoiding a potentially unsafe condition. This is significant in that it allows bicyclists to anticipate dynamic conditions which have the potential to make a bike lane or far right lane position unsafe."

I for one find the golf cart lane FAR more unsafe than the lane of traffic. Plus, the carts are simply too slow, do not signal and are not mandated to have abilities (such as vision) to drive.

The order is...walkers, horses, cyclists (non motorized)..and then cars.

As for cyclists in TV...I have seen a few of the clubs ride. They need not wonder why it is they are hated on the roads (three and four abreast and on and on)

I hope your misinterpretation of the law will provide comfort for you while you mend in the hospital.

[outlaw]

Back to the OP subject. From the picture you provided, it appears to me the lady crossed over at the dotted lines, then the lane you were in was merged into the outside lane by the painted lines in the inside lane. Does that mean you were supposed to yield to anyone in the outside lane? She may have thought you were farther behind her than your picture indicates. At any rate, it looks like she correctly crossed over the dotted lines.

[alancusa]

Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix

I hope you are one of the 57000 members here so you can answer a question. I am the driver with whom you were competing for the same point on the space/time continuum yesterday as we exited Springdale onto Buena Vista. I have marked my path with green and yours with red.


Since you laid on your horn with gusto, I assume you believe that you were in the right and I the wrong. Also, assuming you missed the warning painted on the road indicating you could only turn right and assuming you missed the metal sign indicating the same, and assuming you did not see my left turn signal blinking, please answer my question.

Where exactly did you expect me to head from the left lane?

You are 100% correct. I can't tell you how many times I have observed or confronted the same brand of stupidity at that very intersection. My suggestion for your future safety is that when someone approaches that rotary from Belle Meade on your right, assume that they are one of the imbeciles who hasn't a clue about how to traverse that intersection even though the signage is perfectly explicit and simply assume that they will do it wrong. Placing a Sheriff Deputy at that location would yield a significant amount of revenue for Marion County.